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Unread 03-17-2017, 09:00 AM   #1
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The existence of time

Does time exist, or is it a human construct?

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Unread 03-17-2017, 11:51 AM   #2
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"Time is an abstract concept created by carbon-based life-forms to monitor their ongoing decay." Thundercleese (The Brak Show)

But seriously: this is highly debatable what exactly we're talking about. Are you talking about is there real change? I think so. Is there a uniform, non-arbitrary way to measure such change? Those in quantum mechanics tend to say "Nope!" Do physical objects/things have "temporal parts"? The jury's out on that one. Or do you mean something like, "Is everything equally present and equally real, but not equally accessible?" Not sure.

There are two broad theories within the philosophy of time: A-Theory and B-Theory

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There are two principal varieties of the A-theory, presentism and the growing block universe.[1] Both assume an objective present, but presentism assumes that only present objects exist, while the growing block universe assumes both present and past objects exist, but not future ones.
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The B-theory of time is the name given to one of two positions regarding philosophy of time. B-theorists argue that the flow of time is an illusion, that the past, present and future are equally real, and that time is tenseless. This would mean that temporal becoming is not an objective feature of reality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-theory_of_time
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"Time is an abstract concept created by carbon-based life-forms to monitor their ongoing decay." Thundercleese (The Brak Show)

But seriously: this is highly debatable what exactly we're talking about. Are you talking about is there real change? I think so. Is there a uniform, non-arbitrary way to measure such change? Those in quantum mechanics tend to say "Nope!" Do physical objects/things have "temporal parts"? The jury's out on that one. Or do you mean something like, "Is everything equally present and equally real, but not equally accessible?" Not sure.

There are two broad theories within the philosophy of time: A-Theory and B-Theory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-seri...osophy_of_time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-theory_of_time
There is a guy in my philosophy dept here that works on time and metaphysics. He claims to eschew both A and B theories. But, I have no clue what his theory of time actually looks like...
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I'm not sure where I am on time. I like to lean toward "everything equally present but not equally accessible", but I think about the universe and time as being that God exists outside of it all and can see every possibility and every outcome simultaneously and is able to reach down and intervene where He deems fit. Hence, it's all there but we're stuck in a minute part of it. However, I don't know much on the subject and want to read and research to expand my thinking on it.
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https://www.kent.ac.uk/secl/philosop...ff/forbes.html

I may be either misremembering, or have misunderstood him when we've talked, as he apparently defends growing block view of time. But, it sounds like his project is a major clarification of it.
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