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Unread 07-07-2016, 06:57 AM   #1
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I have a Jackson JS32RT Dinky that I absolutely love. I love the neck on it. I love the finish. I love the string through body. I don't even mind the pick ups. However, the darn thing just won't stay in tune. I've had a couple of friends suggest changing out the tuners. If I were to do something like that, what brand would be the best bet? Should I go with higher end Jackson tuners or something else? Also, If I were to swap out the pick ups, what are some suggestions as to replacements?

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I like Grover tuners, myself. I'm not sure if any will fit a Jackson.
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I like Grover tuners, myself. I'm not sure if any will fit a Jackson.
Would upgrading them solve the tuning problem?
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Would upgrading them solve the tuning problem?
It may. I also think it could be the bridge and the strings. How old are the strings?
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It may. I also think it could be the bridge and the strings. How old are the strings?
Relatively new but it's had this problem since day one. I guess the string through body may be part of it. Huh?
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Before you change the tuners, look into nut and saddle lubrication. Are the tuning issues on all strings, or just on specific ones?
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1) make sure the strings aren't too deep in each nut slot. Only about half (maybe more on plain strings) of the string should sit in the saddle
2) pre-stretch the strings
3) lube the nut
4) check for a sharp edge on the saddle of the wound strings; if sharp edges exist, round them out slightly with a file (the string windings hang up on them)
5) use good stringing technique; shouldn't be too many winds around the peg; whether you tie, do an over under, or whatever, just be mindful of any slipping that can occur at the peg

Good luck.

As for tuners, I tried Klusons 18:1 on my Tele and they seemed very precise.
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I have a Jackson JS32RT Dinky that I absolutely love. I love the neck on it. I love the finish. I love the string through body. I don't even mind the pick ups. However, the darn thing just won't stay in tune. I've had a couple of friends suggest changing out the tuners. If I were to do something like that, what brand would be the best bet? Should I go with higher end Jackson tuners or something else? Also, If I were to swap out the pick ups, what are some suggestions as to replacements?
I would check the nut. It's almost always the nut. I would next time you change strings run the strings through the slots a few times on the wound strings. I might also try some lubrication in the slots.

If you do change tuners, I really like the hipshot locking tuners.

Or do you have a reverse headstock and black tuners? If so, I have a set of sperzels I will probably never use that I got by mistake. If you want to go with no drilling, your choices will be determined by what tuners directly retrofit. Your exact model will effect this.

For pickups... I would recommend seymour duncan black winters. Simply a great all around pickup. Theoretically they are designed for black metal, but they don't sound like it. They do quite well t pretty much anything you throw at them.

But how does it go out of tune? A drift or in little sudden bursts with a ping?
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I would check the nut. It's almost always the nut. I would next time you change strings run the strings through the slots a few times on the wound strings. I might also try some lubrication in the slots.

If you do change tuners, I really like the hipshot locking tuners.

Or do you have a reverse headstock and black tuners? If so, I have a set of sperzels I will probably never use that I got by mistake. If you want to go with no drilling, your choices will be determined by what tuners directly retrofit. Your exact model will effect this.

For pickups... I would recommend seymour duncan black winters. Simply a great all around pickup. Theoretically they are designed for black metal, but they don't sound like it. They do quite well t pretty much anything you throw at them.

But how does it go out of tune? A drift or in little sudden bursts with a ping?
It is a reverse headstock.

It doesn't pop out of tune. It just doesn't stay in tune.

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It is a reverse headstock.

It doesn't pop out of tune. It just doesn't stay in tune.

I included a couple of photos to show what I'm looking at.
can you post the exact model number? I can look up what would be a good retrofit. But the first thing I would do is run the strings back and forth through the nut slots when I changed strings next. The Sperzels would be a good option if you don't mind potentially drilling. I personally tend to like locking tuners because I don't have to worry about wrapping the posts.
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can you post the exact model number? I can look up what would be a good retrofit. But the first thing I would do is run the strings back and forth through the nut slots when I changed strings next. The Sperzels would be a good option if you don't mind potentially drilling. I personally tend to like locking tuners because I don't have to worry about wrapping the posts.

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I am having trouble finding the measurements on that tuner. Gotoh and schaller seem to have some models that might fit. If you could measure the tuner or get a good photo it might be helpful. If you are up for drilling there are several good options in addition. I quite like hipshots locking tuners personally. I would check with them if they fit. Their customer service has also been exceptional in my experience.
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I am having trouble finding the measurements on that tuner. Gotoh and schaller seem to have some models that might fit. If you could measure the tuner or get a good photo it might be helpful. If you are up for drilling there are several good options in addition. I quite like hipshots locking tuners personally. I would check with them if they fit. Their customer service has also been exceptional in my experience.
1/4 inch but that's eyeballing it using a wooden ruler.
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1/4 inch but that's eyeballing it using a wooden ruler.
Yeah, one would have to remove it to get a good measurement. The hole in the headstock and whether it is straight or stepped is the key.

See Warmoth Custom Guitar Parts - Tuner Holes for an idea of what sizes are out there.
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Here are some better (hopefully) photos.
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