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Unread 04-11-2016, 12:49 PM   #1
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Why We Worship on Repeat | Desiring God
Pretty much says what I feel about repetition in worship. Sometimes I have to read a verse over and over to get it. Singing something can often do the same thing.

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Unread 04-12-2016, 01:07 AM   #2
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This right here is one of the reasons I'm an Orthodox Christian We repeat things a lot. Whether it's the words 'Lord have mercy' in response to every petition for God to act, or whether it be the same Psalms and scripture texts every single Divine Liturgy (Psalm 103, 146, and Matthew 5:3-12 are sung as introductory hymns pretty much every Sunday), or whether it's the same Gospel and Epistle texts on the same Sunday every year, or even if it's your pastor preaching the exact same sermon - down to the letter - at every Easter/Pascha - it's all stuff we need to hear and say over and over.
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By the prayers of Your pure Mother and of all the saints,
we beseech You, O Christ our God, to grant us great mercy!
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Originally Posted by jwbrownlula View Post
Why We Worship on Repeat | Desiring God
Pretty much says what I feel about repetition in worship. Sometimes I have to read a verse over and over to get it. Singing something can often do the same thing.
I will agree with your application: Sometimes.

Sometimes it is effective.

But Psalm 136 is only 1 of 150.

For the sake of argument, repetition can also be used to lull someone into a suggestive state of mind for purposes of emotional manipulation.
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There is a good and bad. Sometimes repetition is a wonderful literary or memory device.

Other times it's just lazy or uninspired songwriting.
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Unread 04-13-2016, 06:20 PM   #5
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Nice article.

There was a pastor I worked with a number of years ago... he once complained about repetition in the songs (and they weren't even a quarter of the Jesus Culture repeats haha). He said, "Why do we need to repeat the chorus? I got it the first time." Then he went on to say something like, "...It feels like you take a song, you grind it up like hamburger, smash it into little patties, you throw it on the ground, stomp on it, toss it on the grill and burn it to a crisp and then cram it down our throats..." (shortened version)
Yeah, that was painful.
I tried to respectfully put in to words something like what this article explained (the article said it much better). I doubt I succeeded in explaining my case.

*note: he left the meeting immediately after that on a trip overseas... so I had WEEKS of leading worship while those words resonated in my skull... Upon his return he found out that I was hurt by what he said (yeah, go figure), and took me out to lunch and apologized. All good. But I still think about it sometimes when someone talks about repetition in worship.

Ironically, one of the beautiful worship practices recognized by a number of denominations (including the church I work at) is something called Taize - which, according to Wikipedia, includes prayers consisting of "short chants, repeated again and again... The words are sung over many times.” I find it interesting how sometimes things will be seen as spiritual and moving if they are a traditional practice, but if a modern song has repetition it is criticized.
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I just believe in authentic worship. The heart is what God sees. Authentic isn't a style.
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