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Unread 04-25-2017, 01:51 PM   #61
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I despise Chuck.
The best moment for me was right after Chuck was lecturing Jimmy, and Jimmy told him how it was really going to be. The look on Chuck's face...

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I haven't seen this one yet, but man am I looking forward to it.
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The best moment for me was right after Chuck was lecturing Jimmy, and Jimmy told him how it was really going to be. The look on Chuck's face...
We he told him that he would die alone...oh man. I nearly cheered.
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I haven't seen this one yet, but man am I looking forward to it.
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i understand people's feelings about Chuck, but i have a certain amount of sympathy towards him. he's worked hard to get somewhere in life, while jimmy has played games, and he see's jimmy's dysfunction from a POV that others don't have.

he would tell you that, likable though he might be, jimmy leaves a trail of destruction everywhere he goes.
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i understand people's feelings about Chuck, but i have a certain amount of sympathy towards him. he's worked hard to get somewhere in life, while jimmy has played games, and he see's jimmy's dysfunction from a POV that others don't have.

he would tell you that, likable though he might be, jimmy leaves a trail of destruction everywhere he goes.
Maybe, but he is just mean. Jimmy did become a lawyer (albeit not the way many do) and is actually good at it. I think that is what bothers Chuck. Jimmy did it the unconventional way AND is a better lawyer. Chuck is jealous.

Oh...and he's mean.
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there's such a gap between Chuck's - and the agency he works for - and the other agency that Jimmy briefly worked for's - way of thinking and Jimmy's way of thinking. the agency that Jimmy worked for threw a fit because he made a commercial and put it on TV without going through the Bigwigs before he did it.

i have been debating with myself on who was right or wrong on that. is putting a commercial on TV the way Jimmy did, is that something sleazy? it brought in business, and isn't that what they want?
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there's such a gap between Chuck's - and the agency he works for - and the other agency that Jimmy briefly worked for's - way of thinking and Jimmy's way of thinking. the agency that Jimmy worked for threw a fit because he made a commercial and put it on TV without going through the Bigwigs before he did it.

i have been debating with myself on who was right or wrong on that. is putting a commercial on TV the way Jimmy did, is that something sleazy? it brought in business, and isn't that what they want?
I think that's a good point.

There is this line that Jimmy is constantly on the cusp of crossing.

I don't think he is a bad guy, in the end. I think what I have a problem with comes down to Chuck seeming to have this jealousy or something at Jimmy.

But, I think you are right that it is because of Jimmy's path of destruction.

I guess we have to remember that Chuck has known Jimmy his whole life. And, for the majority of his life, Jimmy has been sleazy and slimy in order to get ahead. He's a grifter, or had been.

It may be that Jimmy has changed. But, for Chuck, he will always be the same. Chuck just can't see that maybe Jimmy has changed to a degree, that he is trying hard.

It all makes me a bit sad because I want to see Jimmy end up on top, to have a story arc where he finally gets past all of this. But, at the same time, I know where it ends because of Breaking Bad...

In that sense, the show is kind of depressing.
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In that sense, the show is kind of depressing.
I don't know, making hot, gooey, delicious cinnamon rolls isn't THAT bad.




I have been thinking, to get to that point the show is going to have to intersect and move beyond Jimmy's role on Breaking Bad. Does that mean we will get to see Walter White again? I sure hope so.
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my wife also see's chuck as a pure jerk. but i "side" with him to a large degree. and i want to attempt to tell what i see.

years back, i read an interesting book titled "the money and the power" by Sally Denton (IIRC). the book is about the history of las vegas. one of the things i learned is that once upon a time, most banks did not wish to do business with las vegas casinos. they did not wish to be seen doing business with something the public might perceive as "sleazy" and associated with crime.

but time went along and banks did eventually start doing business with them. profits talk and "good reputation" takes a back seat.

( i know next to nothing about banking and big money maneuvers, but one thing pointed out in TMATP is that there is - or at least used to be - no true accounting of how much money actually went into vegas gambling. for a long time {and maybe it's still that way} all the government could account was whatever the casino told them. billions of dollars, probably, since 1948, in the devil's offshore bank accounts.)

i see chuck and the law agencys on the show as representing that old way of thinking, when reputation was valued to larger degree than it is now. jimmy represents pure profit, anyway you can get it.

chuck knows that jimmy is a thief and a rip off artist. you will notice that chuck was trying to tell jimmy that "maybe it's for the best" for jimmy to go to jail or lose his standing as a lawyer. i know nobody will want to agree with me, but chuck is right. jimmy is a shyster, right down to his toes, but chuck does care about him and wants jimmy to change. but chuck knows it will take something deep and fundamental and very disturbing to jimmy to ever get jimmy to see his own dysfunction, to see the destruction he causes.
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I guess I just don't see Chuck as being too terribly "righteous" either.

I don't think you can defend Jimmy's eventual actions but I do believe he tried to go the straight and narrow but got shot down because he did think outside of the box. Unfortunately, he didn't think it was something he could do.

To me, and this is just an opinion, Jimmy is a good guy inside who has made bad choices and gone down the wrong path. Chuck, on the other hand, is a bad person who just happens to play by the rules.
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I finally got around to watching this week's episode.

Wow. Chuck lost it.

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Great episode. Made me so happy.

No Mike, though.
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Now THAT was a great episode.

And, now we see the origin of Saul Goodman!

What do y'all think is gonna end up happening to Chuck? I'm feeling sorry for him, to be honest.
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Saul is almost here.

I am genuinely curious to see what happens to Chuck.

It's interesting to remember that Saul was originally supposed to be a very minor character on Breaking Bad and was only going to be in three or four episodes.
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