[Mickey]

For those of you who don't know already, we are beginning the process of removing lyrics from the songs available on CGR in order to satisfy the record labels. Their main concern over our use of their songs on the site was the publishing of the lyrics. For that reason we are beginning to remove the lyrics from all of the chord sheets and tablatures available on the site. The new format will only contain the chord progressions and/or tablature for the song along with notation of what progression/tablature corresponds to what part of the song. Read on for more details.

First off, here is a complete list of the artists in our main section. If there is an artist (or hopefully, artists) that you would like to work on, e-mail your request to tabeditor@christianguitar.ws . Be sure to include your CGR username in your e-mail. Note: You must have been a member of CGR for at least 1 month and have at least 50 posts to participate in this endeavor. After considering the amount of power given to Tab Editors to modify songs in the archives we feel it is necessary to use these requirements. Brent will be overseeing this process and will assign you to the section you request. Once you request a section, Brent will e-mail you with the web address, username, and password you will need in order to begin editing songs. All editing will be done through the website you are given, so there is no need to download each song you wish to edit. More than one person can be assigned to each artist or group, especially for the artists with a large number of songs available on the site. In fact, we encourage more than one person to sign up for any artist they wish. That way we can be sure every song is covered by someone familiar with that song. Each song needs to have ALL of the lyrics removed, but it must still be understandable. This means that you'll probably have to go in and specify that this is the verse, this is the chorus, this is the bridge, etc, as shown in the example here:


Title
Artist

Verse 1:
G D Em C
G D Em C
G D Em C
D

Chorus:
G C D
G C D

Verse 2:
G D Em C
G D Em C
G D Em C
D

Take your time, and do it RIGHT. Also, keep all of the tablature in the songs, but again, be sure to point out what part it's for since the lyrics won't be there any more. Once you are done with an artist, that's all you need to do for them. As new songs come in, I'll make sure that they're formatted correctly.

For those that want to know, I'm 95% sure that this will allow us to start posting Brentwood songs again. They haven't given us an official clearance, but every copyright law I can find says that the lyrics and melody can be copywritten, but chord progressions can NOT. Woo-hoo!

Here is the full list of artists. Obviously, some have more songs than others, so therefore they'll take longer to convert. Also, be sure to test the songs (with your guitar) at least a little bit to make sure they sound right. If you have any questions you can post them here or e-mail the address given above.

100 Portraits
11th Hour Space Monkeys
180
3 on 1
441 - COMPLETED
58 Skivies - COMPLETED
7-10 Split - COMPLETED
77's
90lb. Wuss
A Few Loose Screws - COMPLETED
A Ragamuffin Band - COMPLETED
According To John - COMPLETED
Ace Troubleshooter - COMPLETED
Adam Again - Oddjob (David)
Age Of Faith
Aleixa
All Together Separate
Altar Boys
Altered
Altizer, Rick
Alton Weaver
Altrogge, Mark
American Made - COMPLETED
Ancient Of Days - COMPLETED
Anderson, Michael - COMPLETED
Antestor
Archers, The - COMPLETED
Armburst, Steve - COMPLETED
Armstrong, Riley
Arthur - COMPLETED
Ashton, Becker, Dente
Ashton, Susan
Audio Adrenaline - magidude (Myles) & Thrice Denied (JT)
Audio Paradox - COMPLETED
Avalon - COMPLETED
Barnard, Shane - Xkcerman (Doug)
Basics, The - COMPLETED
Beanbag
Beatles - COMPLETED
Becker, Margaret
Beldings, The
Believable Picnic
Benjamin Gate, The
Bennett, Bob
Benward, Aaron
Big Tent Revival
Black Cherry Soda - COMPLETED
Black Eyed Sceva
Blackball
Blame Lucy - COMPLETED
Blamed
Blaster The Rocketboy
Bleach - COMPLETED
Blenderhead
Blessid Union Of Souls - COMPLETED
Blindside
Bloodshed
Blue Shade Witness - COMPLETED
Boltz, Ray
Brave Saint Saturn
Breakaway
Bride
Broken Cedars - COMPLETED
Brooks, Garth
Broomtree
Brotherhood Lush - COMPLETED
Brothers Keeper - COMPLETED
Brown, Clint
Browning, Dave - COMPLETED
Bullock, Geoff
Bunch of Believers
Burlap To Cashmere
Burnett, Tbone
Cadet
Calibretto 13
Camp, Steve
Caprill Champion - COMPLETED
Capstone
Card, Michael
Carman - Thrice Denied (JT)
Cates, Mickey - COMPLETED
Cede
Chambers, Danny
Champion, Eric - COMPLETED
Chapman, Gary
Chapman, Steven Curtis
Chasing Furies
Chevelle
Choir
Church Of Rhythm
Circadian Rhythm
Circle Of Dust - COMPLETED
Clapton, Eric - COMPLETED
Clay, Kevin
Clear
Cockburn, Bruce
Code Of Ethics - COMPLETED
Cohen Brothers - COMPLETED
Collect All Three - COMPLETED
Collective Soul
Colman, Paul
Common Weel - COMPLETED
Considering Lily
Cootees
Corbans, The - COMPLETED
Correll, Danny
Cox, John
Craigs Brother
Crain, Josh
Crashdog - COMPLETED
Creed - COMPLETED
Crimson Lullaby - COMPLETED
Crockett, Billy
Crossing, The
Crowder, David
Crucified
Crystavox - COMPLETED
Curious Fools
Dakoda Motor Company
Daniels, Charlie - COMPLETED
Danielson Family - COMPLETED
Dashboard Confessional
Davis, Jody
DC Talk - bctour7 (Brian)
Dean, Billy - COMPLETED
Dear Ephesus - COMPLETED
Degarmo and Key
Delirious - COMPLETED
Deliverance
Deluge - COMPLETED
Deluxtone Rockets, The - COMPLETED
Denison Marrs - COMPLETED
Deuteronomium
Devoted Molded
Deyo, Jeff
Dime Store Prophets
Dingees
Dion
Disciple
Dog Named David
Dogs of Peace - COMPLETED
Dogwood
Downhere - bctour7 (Brian)
Dream of Eden - COMPLETED
Driver Eight
Dryve
Dumpster
Duncan, Bryan
Dust Eater Dogs - COMPLETED
Dylan, Bob
Eager
Earthsuit - COMPLETED
East West
Easters, The - COMPLETED
Echo Hollow
Eden Burning
Eden's Bridge - COMPLETED
EDL
Ejay
Electrics
Eli - COMPLETED
Elias, Rick - COMPLETED
Elms, The
Eloi - COMPLETED
Embodyment
Eminent Child
English, Michael
Enigk, Jeremy
Esoteric
Everybodyduck - bctour7 (Brian)
Evidence - COMPLETED
Exit 10 - COMPLETED
Extant
Extol
Fanmail
Farner, Mark
Fear Of God
Firehouse
Five Iron Frenzy - Josiah
Five O'Clock People
Fleming and John
Focal Point - COMPLETED
Focused - COMPLETED
Fold Zandura
Fono
Foote, Billy
Founds, Rick
Fragar, Russell
Frazier, Rob
Freeto Boat - COMPLETED
Galactic Cowboys
Garcia, Jerry Band
Garrett, Glenn
Ghoti Hook
Giaconia, Nick - COMPLETED
Girard, Chuck
Glad
Glisten - COMPLETED
Glover, Ben - COMPLETED
Godspell
Grammatrain
Grant, Amy
Green, Al
Green, Keith
Green, Steve - COMPLETED
Groves, Sara - COMPLETED
GS Megaphone - COMPLETED
Guardian
Guevara, Chagall - COMPLETED
Hall, Charlie
Halo
Hangnail - COMPLETED
Harper, Ben - COMPLETED
Havalina Rail Co.
Heard, Mark
Herb
Hibiscusbloom
Hill, Faith - COMPLETED
Hill, Kim - COMPLETED
Hoi Polloi
Hokus Pick
Holm, Dallas
Holy Soldier
Honeylocust
Honeytree - COMPLETED
Horde
House Of Prayer - COMPLETED
Houston, Joel
Houston, Whitney
Howerton, Layton
Hudson, Katy
Hughes, Tim
Human
Huntingtons
Ill Harmonics
Imagine This
Imperials - COMPLETED
In Reach - COMPLETED
Ingram, Jason Band
Inklings - COMPLETED
Insyderz - COMPLETED
Iona
Irrevocable - COMPLETED
Isaiah Rain
Jackson Finch
Jacobs Patience - COMPLETED
Jacobs Trouble - COMPLETED
Jahn, Sarah
James, Michael - COMPLETED
Janz, Paul
Janzen, Chris Band
Jeff Berry Band, The
Jeoffrey, Aaron - COMPLETED
Jesse and the Rockers - COMPLETED
Joe Christmas
Joel, Phil
Johnny Q Public
Johnny Respect
Johnson, Kim
Jolly Napier
Joseph, Martyn
Joy Electric
Juliana Theory, The - COMPLETED
Jupiter James - COMPLETED
Jurado, Damien
Justifide
K2S - COMPLETED
Kaiser, Glenn
Kansas
Katinas, The
Keaggy, Cheri
Keaggy, Phil
Kenoly, Ron - COMPLETED
Khrysalis
King, Ross
King, Wes
Kings X
Klank
Kmax
Knapp, Jennifer
Knapp, Kyle
Knapp, Phoebe - COMPLETED
Knott, Michael
Kravitz, Lenny
Krippayne, Scott
Krist, Jan
Kry, The
Lampa, Rachael - COMPLETED
Laver, Rod
Left Out
Legend - COMPLETED
Leonti, Nikki - COMPLETED
Levi, Allen
Levy, Grover
Lewis, Crystal
Libsuite - COMPLETED
Lifehouse - Ryanne
Lifesavers
Light
Livgren, Kerry - COMPLETED
Living Sacrifice
Lloyd - COMPLETED
Long, Greg - COMPLETED
Lost and Found
Lost Coin
Love Song
Lowry, Mark
LSU
Luna Halo - COMPLETED
Luti-Kriss
Luxury
Maclellan, Gene
Mad At The World
Maintenance Man - COMPLETED
Malcolm and Alwynn - COMPLETED
Mansfield, Darrell
Marks, Kenny
Martinez, Joshua
Martyrs and Thieves
MaryMary
Marys Den
Masen, Sarah
Mason, Babbie - COMPLETED
Mastedon
Matthews, Randy
McGraw, Tim - COMPLETED
McGuire, Barry
McRoberts, Justin
McVicker, Mitch
Meaney, Timothy James
Meece, David
Miller, Julie
Miss Angie
Model Engine
Montgomery, John Michael
Moody, Jeff
Moore, Geoff (and the Distance)
Moore, Mandy - COMPLETED
Morellas Forest
Morgan, Cindy - COMPLETED
Mortal
Mortification
Mullen, Nicole C.
Mullins, Rich
Mustard Seeds
MXPX - Strat_dude (Brian)
My Friend Stephanie
My Pet Rock
Nailed
Nathan and Charlie - COMPLETED
Newsboys - Scott
Nickel and Dime
No Innocent Victim
Nordeman, Nichole
Normals, The
Norman, Larry
Not Quite There - COMPLETED
Nowhere To Hide - COMPLETED
Nystrom, Martin - COMPLETED
Oakley, Paul - Oddjob (David)
Off The Record
Officer Negative
Orrico, Stacie - COMPLETED
Ortega, Fernando
Out Of Eden - COMPLETED
Out Of The Grey
Outer Circle
Over The Rhine
Overcome
Owens, Ginny
Owens-Collins, Jamie
Paige - COMPLETED
Paris, Twila
Parks, David - COMPLETED
Patriotic
Pax217 - Thrice Denied (JT)
Payne, Kendall
Peacock, Charlie
Pedro the Lion
Pep Squad - COMPLETED
Petra
Pettis, Pierce
PFR
Phantasmic
Phillips, Craig, Dean
Phillips, Jill
Phillips, Leslie
Philmore
Pillar
Plaid - COMPLETED
Plankeye
Plus One - COMPLETED
Pocket Change
POD - COMPLETED
Point of Grace
Polar Boy
Poor Old Lu
Prayer Chain
Precious Death
Proclaimers
Proctor, Todd
Project 86 - COMPLETED
Pspazz - COMPLETED
Puller
Pura - COMPLETED
Radial Angel
Raspberry Jam
Raze
Reality Check - Ryanne
Redline
Redman, Matt - Thrice Denied (JT) & Phil
Relient K - COMPLETED
Resin
Reuben, John
Rez
Rice, Chris
Rimes, LeAnn - COMPLETED
River City People
Rivulets and Violets - COMPLETED
Roadside Monument
Rocketboy
Roe, Michael
Room Full of Walters
Rose Blossom Punch
Sal Paradise - COMPLETED
Salsbury, Ron (and the JC Power Outlet)
Salvador - COMPLETED
Sanctus Real
Sappo
Satellite Soul
Saviour Machine
Scarecrow and Tinmen
Schaliach - COMPLETED
Schlitt, John
Schultz, Mark
Send the Beggar
Seven Day Jesus - FeebleGenius (Michael)
Sevenfold
Seventh Angel - COMPLETED
Seventh Day Slumber - COMPLETED
Shaded Red
Shadowlands
Shane and Caleb
Shane and Shane
Shorthanded - COMPLETED
Sick of Change
Side Walk Slam
Sierra - COMPLETED
Silers Bald
Sincerely Timothy
Sister Hazel
Six Feet Deep
Sixpence None the Richer - 3e3c3e (Mark)
Skillet - Skilar (Paul)
Skypark - Scuba_Steve (Stephen)
Slick Shoes
Smalltown Poets - PrincessKate (Kati)
Smiley Kids
Smith, Jami
Solomon's Wish
Sometime Sunday
Sonicflood - Thrice Denied (JT), Acoustic87 & Phil
Soulfood 76
Sozo - COMPLETED
Speck
Spoken
Spooky Tuesday
Sprague, Billy
Springsteen, Bruce
Sprinkle, Aaron
Spudgun - COMPLETED
Squad 5-0
St. James, Rebecca - COMPLETED
Starflyer 59
Stavesacre
Stern, Jim - COMPLETED
Steve
Stewart, Pete
Stonehill, Randy
Strauss, Norm
Stretch Armstrong
Strongarm - COMPLETED
Stryper
Sundry
Superchick - Scuba_Steve (Stephen)
Supertones - COMPLETED
Sweet, Michael
Switchfoot - COMPLETED
Taff, Russ
Tait
Talbot, John Michael
Tasty Snax - COMPLETED
Taylor, Chris - COMPLETED
Taylor, Steve
Ten Times Fast - COMPLETED
Terry, Pat Group
Theme Songs - COMPLETED
This Train
Thomas, BJ
Thousand Foot Krutch
Three Days
Threedayslumber
Toad the Wet Sprocket
tobyMac - Darrin
Tomlin, Chris - COMPLETED
Torn - COMPLETED
Tourniquet
Tragedy Ann
Travis, Randy
Tree63
Tumes, Michelle
Twain, Shania
Twothirtyeight
U2 - DaveC
Ultimatum - COMPLETED
Unashamed
United For One (U.F.O.) - COMPLETED
University Baptist Church
Upside-Down Room
Uthanda
Value Pac
Van Manen, Ralph
Veggie Tales - Darrin
Velasquez, Jaci - COMPLETED
Velour 100
Venegeance Rising
Vigilantes of Love
Violet Burning
Viva Voce
Vroom
W's
Waiting
Walker, Rob - COMPLETED
Walker, Tommy
Ward, Matthew
Ward, Sammy
Waterdeep
Watermark
Watson, Lyle
Watson, Wayne
Way Sect Bloom
Way, The
Wedding Party - COMPLETED
White Cross
White Heart
Wide Awake - COMPLETED
Wiggins Key - COMPLETED
Williams, Brett (and In Reach)
Wilshire - COMPLETED
xdisciplex
Yearwood, Trisha
Youngward, Sherri
Yum Yum Children - COMPLETED
Zao
Zilch
Zippy Josh
ZOEgirl - COMPLETED


Thanks!

IHL,
Mickey

[Phil]

Mickey,

Would it be possible to have the first word for a new chord in it? I mean, not all the lyrics, but have the new chord over the word where it changes (and just not any of the words between)?

If not, what about having periods or something to show which words go to the chords?... I saw it in another thread, and it would be better than nothing. It's extremely hard for some beginning guitarists to figure out the timing and rythem of songs even if they have the lyrics, so anything that could help out would be great.

[Brent]

Good point... But....after I just finished changing about 20 Chris Tomlin tabs to the new format... :kshock: :kduh:

[Mickey]

Phil,

I think that's probably legal, but it moves us back into a grey area. If we just flat out remove the lyrics, I know that we're legal. Let's just go with that for now, and once it's done, and we've convinced Brentwood/Vineyard/Integrity that it's legal, we'll look at it again.

IHL,
Mickey

[Darrin]

I have a good Knowage of music but can NOT play the guitar vary well and would like to help...so I can remove the lyrics but NOT test the songs....is there some way I can help and have someone else test the songs? I hope so!

[Brent]

Darrin: I'm not sure that would work out very well. Once you remove the lyrics to the song you must leave the chords/tablature in an understandable format or order and it's hard to do that if you don't know the song. You need to be familiar with the song(s) in order to arrange the chords in logical order and without the lyrics there it would be even harder for even someone who was familiar with the song to figure out what goes where without the guidance of the lyrics there.

[Mickey]

Brent - Slight change. When someone starts working on an artist, put their name next to that artist. When that artist has been completely de-lyric-ed then just remove the entry completely. The list will get shorter and shorter, and eventually (hopefully) disappear completely!

IHL,
Mickey

[Brent]

10-4 Mickey.

[Darrin]

Brent: What I ment is I know the songs and I could take the lyrics off (you just keep the chords in the same relative order/line right and remove the lyrics) but Mickey said he wants us to play them when we are finished, that I probably couldn't do. But I think it wouls still same time is I converted some to the new format.. Let me know what ya think.

[Mickey]

You don't NEED to play them all. I'm sure there are songs on here that no one knows... In many cases, you just need to tweak the spacing of the chords and put in a few pieces of text ("chorus", "verse", etc). In other cases, though, it will take a complete re-working of the song, in which case you'll need to be able to play through it to make sure it sounds about right...

IHL,
Mickey

[Brent]

I'm pretty close to finishing the Chris Tomlin section, but I've noticed a couple things in the process. Once you remove the lyrics you find that the 2 or 3 versions of one song are basically the same....what to do with these? Also, some of the songs are just downright wrong....wrong chords, wrong progression, whatever...and once you get rid of the lyrics they just don't make much since...what to do with these as well?

[Mickey]

If you (or anyone) find any songs that should be deleted, just send me an e-mail (mickey@christianguitar.ws) and tell me. Be sure to include:

-Artist
-Song Title
-Song ID number (when you are editing the song, it should show up in the address bar. Be sure you get the song ID number, and not the artist ID number.
-Reason for deleting the song ("very wrong", "duplicate chords", etc)

Do all of that, and I'll take care of them.

IHL,
Mickey

[Brent]

It has been brought to my attention that someone (other than Charlie) has been editing tabs in the Steven Curtis Chapman section. This is a reminder (as it said in the e-mail I've sent all who have signed up) that you are to edit tabs ONLY in the section assigned to you. Leave the other tabs to the person(s) assigned to them or to the people who will eventually be assigned to them. Charlie is the ONLY person who should be editing tabs in that section. This is the best organized way to do it and we don't want anyone messing that up. On top of them being out of their assigned section, the tabs were edited quite poorly as well. Whomever is responsible took out the words and left the chords in a jumbled mess right where they were left after deleting the words. PLEASE *stick to the format* shown in Mickey's first post in this thread and we will have everything uniform.

[Jc]

Roger that Brent, I've been follow Mick's Format as commanded. How am I doin' in the DcTalk Section?? I've only got a few done, but I know started today

[Brent]

Originally posted by JC_Blues
How am I doin' in the DcTalk Section?? I've only got a few done, but I know started today

Lookin' good so far.