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Unread 07-18-2014, 12:26 AM   #1
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Percentage of Americans by Sexuality

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr077.pdf

It was popular a few decades ago to claim that the number of homosexuals was around 10%. Apparently that is waaaaaay off.

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Unread 07-18-2014, 05:46 AM   #2
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http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr077.pdf

It was popular a few decades ago to claim that the number of homosexuals was around 10%. Apparently that is waaaaaay off.

I have always heard that that actual number was WAY less than 10%. That article seems to support that.

It also makes you wonder why/how the entertainment industry has convinced people that it is so much higher. If you were to make assumptions based upon TV shows and movies...you would think the number would have to be much higher.

It's also interesting to note (to me anyway) that the largest group is the one between the ages of 18 and 44. That would be the group MOST affected by the shift in entertainment and popular culture...wouldn't you think?
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I have always heard that that actual number was WAY less than 10%. That article seems to support that.

It also makes you wonder why/how the entertainment industry has convinced people that it is so much higher. If you were to make assumptions based upon TV shows and movies...you would think the number would have to be much higher.
GLAAD reported that 3.3% of characters on primetime TV shows in 2013 identified as LGBT which is almost exactly the % of people who identified as non-straight according to the report.

Not finding any information about movies, but I wouldn't guess it's much different.
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I have always heard that that actual number was WAY less than 10%. That article seems to support that.

It also makes you wonder why/how the entertainment industry has convinced people that it is so much higher. If you were to make assumptions based upon TV shows and movies...you would think the number would have to be much higher.

It's also interesting to note (to me anyway) that the largest group is the one between the ages of 18 and 44. That would be the group MOST affected by the shift in entertainment and popular culture...wouldn't you think?
10% is what a lot of media likes to promote. There was even a direct quote of this coming from an "almanac" on 3rd Rock.
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GLAAD reported that 3.3% of characters on primetime TV shows in 2013 identified as LGBT which is almost exactly the % of people who identified as non-straight according to the report.

Not finding any information about movies, but I wouldn't guess it's much different.
That's really interesting, actually. Thanks for the link.
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GLAAD reported that 3.3% of characters on primetime TV shows in 2013 identified as LGBT which is almost exactly the % of people who identified as non-straight according to the report.
Maybe that number is true, but it's one of those statistics (if true) which doesn't tell the whole story. Their was a show called, "The New Normal" about a gay couple. One of the three families on Modern Family is a gay couple.
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Maybe that number is true, but it's one of those statistics (if true) which doesn't tell the whole story. Their was a show called, "The New Normal" about a gay couple. One of the three families on Modern Family is a gay couple.
I know Wikipedia isn't the most reliable...however:

List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Maybe that number is true, but it's one of those statistics (if true) which doesn't tell the whole story. Their was a show called, "The New Normal" about a gay couple. One of the three families on Modern Family is a gay couple.
I guess I'm not sure what the point is here--that people are being led to believe there more LGBT people because a few shows have them in major roles?

I don't think statistics ever tell the whole story (about anything really), but I'm also not sure how pointing out that there are LGBT characters in major roles impacts our discussion. They're still overwhelmingly dwarfed by non-LGBT characters, even in major roles.
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I've never heard a 10% number asserted as fact, I've always heard the number is about 2%. No surprise here.
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I guess I'm not sure what the point is here--that people are being led to believe there more LGBT people because a few shows have them in major roles?

I don't think statistics ever tell the whole story (about anything really), but I'm also not sure how pointing out that there are LGBT characters in major roles impacts our discussion. They're still overwhelmingly dwarfed by non-LGBT characters, even in major roles.
I think part of the problem lies in the fact that you have organizations giving "failing" grades to networks that don't portray gays in enough roles when the truth is...they are representing them accurately if the statistics are correct.

I would also suggest that in some cases...the number of gays is immensely exaggerated. I believe a show like Glee shows a disproportionate number of gays based upon real life experience.
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I believe a show like Glee shows a disproportionate number of gays based upon real life experience.
And a disproportionate number of people that want to group together in high school and sing covers.
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And a disproportionate number of people that want to group together in high school and sing covers.
We had chorus in high school but it was nothing like that.

Of course...band wasn't anything like it is portrayed in movies either.
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