01-29-2012, 03:56 PM
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#16 | | |Last of the Gang to Die|
Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Commonwealth of Louisiana Posts: 1,841
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Originally Posted by Role Modlin I go to church every Sunday because I don't want to go to hell. | Why else would you go?
I made it on Christmas but not New Years'. The church I'm attending now is small and full of konvertsky types, so we mostly don't miss church. In the Orthodox Church the major holidays are a big deal because we've usually been fasting, so in many people's minds Christmas = MEAT.
New Years' I didn't have the gas, I think.
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01-30-2012, 02:05 PM
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#17 | | Honeymoonin'
Joined: Dec 2001 Location: Bremerton, wa Posts: 4,932
| My church had services on new years but I wasn't there because I was out of town (in the mountains). We didn't do a Christmas day service because so many people were out of town or had family in from out of town. It's hard to ask volunteers to give up their entire Christmas morning to be totally honest. We have a very dedicated group that are there from about 6:30am to 1pm every week at a minimum, and I don't think it was unreasonable to give them the day off. They had a Christmas Eve service and left it at that.
Religiosity isn't holiness, choosing to worship God daily is our calling, not going to church on sundays, or saturdays, or wednesday nights. (Not trying to say fellowship isn't important, but I am saying the day itself isn't). |
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01-30-2012, 03:45 PM
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#18 | | PhD candidate
Joined: Aug 2010 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 312
| I went to my parents church, rather than my usual church. Largely because they are in different cities, so if I'm visiting my parents I can't go to my normal church.
New years day I actually led the music at my parents church, which was nice to be able to do. It's where I first really got into music teams, so it's nice that I can still contribute there, even if very sporadically. |
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01-30-2012, 11:38 PM
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#19 | | reformed guitarist
Joined: May 2010 Location: A pilgrim on this Earth Posts: 449
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Originally Posted by redbaron Religiosity isn't holiness, choosing to worship God daily is our calling, not going to church on sundays, or saturdays, or wednesday nights. (Not trying to say fellowship isn't important, but I am saying the day itself isn't). | My attending both has nothing to do with religiosity--but everything to do with enjoying fellowship and enjoying worship--and if the congregation I am part of is doing it, and I am not providentially hindered from being there--I desire to be there, so I will be.
I've also exlained why it is important to meet as well, in ways that are not "religiosity."
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01-31-2012, 12:11 AM
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#20 | | Meat Popsicle
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,294
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Originally Posted by zedman That's limiting my comments--because they can be symptoms of an attitude that reaches far deeper and says something about our priorities, or it can just be a temporary thing that some would call a weakness.
And one thing most people seem to miss is that when the church meets it is about more than worship--it is about fellowship & community.
Now if you're with family, and you have an extended family where most people are Christian, you may be able to still pull all that off--however in many parts of the world--including Canada--this is not the case.
Outside of the time I spent at out service on Christmas Day, most of the people I spent time with at Christmas were not Christians. Yes it is good to do so, as we are called to be in the world, but I was not willing to just do that and not have good Christian fellowship & worship. If you are able to have those with your extended family--great--but I submit that even if most people on this forum can do that, and most people where you live can do that, you are still in the minority in the world at large. | This attitude is precisely the reason why I choose not to go to church more often than I do. The other reason is because the Church I'd like to attend is a good distance away and the gas to get there is expensive.
Most churches I've been to are full of self righteous hypocrites and I'm getting tired of fake jerks. Whether it's in small churches who pretend to have a tight-knit group, but in reality are full of cliques and backstabbing, or big churches where you're just a face in the crowd, I'm sick of it.
So yes, I skip church A LOT! And you know what, I don't care. I worship and I spend time with other Christians (I hate using the word fellowship, and I have a whole other rant about Christian semantics if you wanna hear it). I don't need a church to do so.
Now that's not to say that there aren't good churches, again, I love the church I go to periodically but am limited to because of gas. But good churches, sadly, are the exception and not the rule. So please don't get judgmental about stupid crap like that. Quote:
Originally Posted by Role Modlin I go to church every Sunday because I don't want to go to hell. | lol
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01-31-2012, 09:49 AM
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#21 | | High Five!
Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Here Posts: 9,913
| Alright, let's try either to get back on topic or move on, guys  . If you want to create another thread and take this there (re: discussion about potentially judgmental attitudes), that's fine, but ensure that you do not resort to personal attacks or assumptions that you know something about someone simply by reading one or two posts of theirs on the internet. That's not a complete reflection of a person's character, and we're still brothers and sisters in Christ no matter what.
Otherwise, feel free to continue to respond on-topic! |
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01-31-2012, 10:33 AM
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#22 | | word Super Moderator
Joined: Aug 2003 Location: Ye Olde North State Posts: 29,934
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Originally Posted by DaGeek Alright, let's try either to get back on topic or move on, guys  . If you want to create another thread and take this there (re: discussion about potentially judgmental attitudes), that's fine, but ensure that you do not resort to personal attacks or assumptions that you know something about someone simply by reading one or two posts of theirs on the internet. That's not a complete reflection of a person's character, and we're still brothers and sisters in Christ no matter what.
Otherwise, feel free to continue to respond on-topic! | Yeah.
But still remember:
Church > Hell |
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01-31-2012, 03:12 PM
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#23 | | Bulldogge Administrator
Joined: Jun 2001 Location: Beaverton, Or Posts: 37,721
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Originally Posted by DaGeek Alright, let's try either to get back on topic or move on, guys  . If you want to create another thread and take this there (re: discussion about potentially judgmental attitudes), that's fine, but ensure that you do not resort to personal attacks or assumptions that you know something about someone simply by reading one or two posts of theirs on the internet. That's not a complete reflection of a person's character, and we're still brothers and sisters in Christ no matter what.
Otherwise, feel free to continue to respond on-topic! | Paul,
I disagree. The topic of this thread is a judgmental attitude. The OP began the personal attacks here. The first post assumes, and wrongfully so, that if one did not attend church on a particular holiday, that one was not worshiping God. This is judgmental and insulting by creating a false dilemma akin to asking if you have stopped beating your wife yet.
The personal attacks start in post 1 by the OP.
Because of that, I am opting to close the thread. It's foundation is nothing good.
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