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Unread 04-09-2014, 01:22 PM   #46
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Interesting paragraph from wikipedia...

"In many Evangelical churches, traditional songs are classified as hymns while more contemporary worship songs are not considered hymns. The reason for this distinction is unclear, but according to some it is due to the radical shift of style and devotional thinking that began with the Jesus movement and Jesus music."

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Unread 04-09-2014, 01:27 PM   #47
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We're using the term "hymn" fairly broadly in this thread, but I think you would find a few contemporary songs that fit in. Much of the stuff that the Getty's are writing, and Stuart Townsend, would be considered hymn-like in their structure. Maybe even Matt Maher's "Come Awake" could fit that description.

As to the "stand the test of time" test... well, it's hard to say right now. ;-)

Another point to make, if we begin to narrow our definition of the term, is that not everything that shows up in a hymnal is a hymn. Gospel tunes have been included since the turn of the 20th century, and contemporary choruses started appearing in some hymnals as early as the 1960s.
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Unread 07-12-2017, 11:44 PM   #48
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I'm partial to the Trubachayev arrangement of the Cherubic Hymn, from the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom (and also St. Basil's liturgy). Unfortunately, I can't find a recording that isn't in Church Slavonic, but an arrangement does exist in English.

The English text of the Cherubic Hymn is:

We who in a mystery represent the Cherubim,
And who sing the thrice-holy hymn to the life-creating Trinity,
Let us now lay aside all earthly cares,
That we may receive the King of all, invisibly escorted by the angelic host!

The Cherubic Hymn has been the subject of arrangements by various classical composers - I believe Sergei Rachmaninoff and Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky both wrote Cherubic Hymn settings.
I'm also a fan of the Sanctus - which comes directly from Scripture.

Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God of Hosts!
Heaven and Earth are full of Your glory!
Hosanna in the highest, blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord!
Hosanna in the highest!

One of the Orthodox Church's hymns of Nativity/Christmas always blows me away:

Today He who holds Creation in His hand is born of the Virgin,
He whose essence none can touch is bound in swaddling-clothes as a mortal man.

God, who in the beginning fashioned the heavens, lies in a manger.

He who rained manna on His people in the desert is fed on milk from His Mother's breasts,
The Bridegroom of the Church summons the wise men;

The Son of the Virgin accepts their gifts.

We worship Your birth, O Christ.

Show us also Your Holy Theophany.

And the parallel hymn from the antiphons of Holy Thursday, leading up to the commemoration of Christ's Passion and Resurrection,

Today is suspended on a tree He who suspended the earth upon the waters.

The King of the angels is decked with a crown of thorns.
He who wraps the heavens in clouds is wrapped in the purple of mockery.
He who freed Adam in the Jordan is slapped on the face.
The Bridegroom of the Church is affixed to the Cross with nails.
The Son of the virgin is pierced by a spear.
We worship Thy passion, O Christ.
We worship Thy passion, O Christ.
We worship Thy passion, O Christ.
Show us also Thy glorious resurrection

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Unread 07-28-2017, 06:35 PM   #49
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In terms of church music from outside the Orthodox tradition, I am quite partial to:

And Am I Born To Die? by Charles Wesley, as recorded by the Sacred Harp Singers for the soundtrack of the movie Cold Mountain.

And am I born to die, to lay this body down?
And must my trembling spirit fly into a world unknown?

A land of deepest shade, unpierced by human thought,
The dreary regions of the dead where all things are forgot.

Soon as from earth I go, what will become of me?
Eternal happiness or woe must then my portion be!

Waked by the trumpet sound I from my grave shall rise,
And see the Judge with glory crowned, and see the flaming skies!
Also, I really like the Jenny and Tyler rendition of See the Conquerer Mounts in Triumph.

Thou hast raised our human nature, in the clouds to God's right hand,
There we sit in heav'nly places, there with Thee in glory stand,
Jesus reigns adored by angels, Man with God is on the throne!
Mighty Lord, in Thine ascension, we by faith behold our own!

Except I think the bridge they wrote is kinda dumb (sorry J&T) and the hymn would be better without it.
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