07-24-2011, 10:48 PM
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#1 | | Registered User
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 10
| What next? Well, you can see my rig in my signature. Tuner, overdrive, basic delay, and a multi-FX pedal running as a glorified volume pedal. I'm looking to expand my rig with one or two (low-priced) pedals to try and expand my tone when I'm playing worship guitar at church. Any suggestions? I don't think I'll be shooting for a chorus or flanger just yet, I don't need that specific sort of tone. Much obliged in advance!
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07-24-2011, 11:04 PM
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#2 | | Bulldogge Administrator
Joined: Jun 2001 Location: Beaverton, Or Posts: 37,721
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Originally Posted by nathcarter Well, you can see my rig in my signature. Tuner, overdrive, basic delay, and a multi-FX pedal running as a glorified volume pedal. I'm looking to expand my rig with one or two (low-priced) pedals to try and expand my tone when I'm playing worship guitar at church. Any suggestions? I don't think I'll be shooting for a chorus or flanger just yet, I don't need that specific sort of tone. Much obliged in advance! | Maybe a volume pedal, but don't buy something unless you feel you need it and know why you need it.
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07-24-2011, 11:08 PM
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#3 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq Maybe a volume pedal, but don't buy something unless you feel you need it and know why you need it. | Funnily enough, that's exactly what I was looking at getting. Was thinking of working on some awesome little swells to give some colour to the quieter stuff at church, after checking out the new Dunlop DVP-1.
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07-24-2011, 11:13 PM
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#4 | | I'm on a horse. Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Seattle, WA. Posts: 26,974
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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq Maybe a volume pedal, but don't buy something unless you feel you need it and know why you need it. | +1
Totally agreed. Maybe pick up a cheap volume, but if you're happy with your sound, then just be happy with your sound. |
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07-25-2011, 12:05 AM
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#5 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
| For $20-$30 less (or more) than the DVP-1, you can pick up an Ernie Ball Volume Pedal (or VP Jr.)
Just a thought... |
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07-25-2011, 08:45 AM
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#6 | | Registered User
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 379
| Another vote for the Ernie Ball Volume Pedal.
I've had one for years, it's great. |
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07-25-2011, 10:00 PM
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#7 | | Registered User
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 10
| My only concern with the Ernie Ball VP is that I'm hearing some pretty consistent stories of tone suck. Does anyone find this to be a problem?
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07-25-2011, 10:11 PM
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#8 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
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Originally Posted by nathcarter My only concern with the Ernie Ball VP is that I'm hearing some pretty consistent stories of tone suck. Does anyone find this to be a problem? | I haven't noticed any issues with the mono volume, I can't speak for the VP Jr. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dunlop DVP-1 is a very similar, if not identical design electronically to any other volume pedals on the market. |
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07-25-2011, 10:12 PM
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#9 | | Bulldogge Administrator
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Originally Posted by nathcarter My only concern with the Ernie Ball VP is that I'm hearing some pretty consistent stories of tone suck. Does anyone find this to be a problem? | only if you get the wrong one. (There is an active and passive version)
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07-26-2011, 08:23 AM
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#10 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by nathcarter My only concern with the Ernie Ball VP is that I'm hearing some pretty consistent stories of tone suck. Does anyone find this to be a problem? | Mainly a problem when using tuner out IMO. VP Jr. is a good investment and a lot of people use them. Plenty of haters out there but wouldn't worry about them.
Oh, its the 'Ernie Ball VP JR 6180' passive you likely want (250k volume pot).
@OP - Fully depends what you're after in sound and function, i.e. types of songs you're playing, lead/rhythm etc.
If you're doing a lot of Hillsong/Passion/Jesus Culture then they are quite clean boost/delay/overdrive driven, if not then look at what you need for the job.
Do you have a tap tempo switch for your DD7? (Easy to make). If not then get one for sure!
If you do then possibly adding another delay (say a DD5) to have one on qtr notes and the other on dotted 8th (I have DD7 on modulation and DD5 on dotted 8th). Really does give a lovely sound together and combine that with VP Jr. you can get some unreal swells - very useful for modern worship songs.
If not another delay then a reverb or compressor is always handy to have in either function.
You do get what you pay for though so I would steer clear of cheap pedals - although the kit you have is nice so you haven't scrimped there! Recently got into JHS kit, reasonably priced and some great sounds to be had for the money!
You do have to ask yourself - if you don't know what you want then you probably don't need it yet.
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07-26-2011, 10:49 AM
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#11 | | I'm on a horse. Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Seattle, WA. Posts: 26,974
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Originally Posted by nathcarter My only concern with the Ernie Ball VP is that I'm hearing some pretty consistent stories of tone suck. Does anyone find this to be a problem? | Nope. Mine is at the end of a pretty long chain, too. |
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07-26-2011, 07:07 PM
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#12 | | Registered User
Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Lisbon CT Posts: 552
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Originally Posted by nathcarter My only concern with the Ernie Ball VP is that I'm hearing some pretty consistent stories of tone suck. Does anyone find this to be a problem? | I really do not like volume pedals with tuner outs. All the ones I've seen just split your signal, which I think leads to the "tone suck". On my volume pedal I completely disabled the tuner out. |
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07-26-2011, 07:43 PM
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#13 | | Registered User
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 379
| No problems with my EB 6166 mono using the tuner out. Like Rainer, my volume is after wah, comp, and dirt, so no tone loss at all, that I notice... |
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07-31-2011, 08:42 AM
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#14 | | Registered User
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 10
| Okay, so now it's a toss-up between the VP Jr. 6180 and the DVP-1 (still not sure if I want to risk the string in the VP Jr. breaking, as I hear it does). And now someone's mentioned the Morley optical VP to me. Anyone heard anything about how that compares? The advice is very much appreciated, guys, you've certainly helped me move towards making a firmer decision. The VP Jr. seems to be the right combo of serviceability and value-for-money.
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08-08-2011, 09:59 PM
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#15 | | Real Name: Steve Angel
Joined: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 152
| The Visual Sound Volume pedal is a good option and it's got lights to show where your volumes at.
What other volume pedal does that?
Sorry i have not been on here in so long. I've been travelling alot with my band. We're hitting all the states up lol
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