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gtrdave · 06-15-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mulletman

My "truck" (barely) is actually rather practical. All of the problems you list are only present with these so-called "full size" trucks. My vehicle is very much like a small car with a bed. In it's earlier days, it got me very near 30 mpg, and has an excellent turning radius. I can also haul a lot of stuff.... it came in very handy for moving several times when I was in college, and also for throwing a couple guitars, amps, and a 2x12 in. In fact, I'd argue that a big truck is actually less practical for hauling stuff than my little 'Yota, simply due to the issue of the height of the bed, which is worsened with a pointless lift....

Man, those hubcaps are awful, lol.

My boss from a job many, many years ago had the long-bed version of your truck.
He, too, got great mileage in it as it was his only vehicle for work and commuting. A full-size truck would have been pointless seeing how little he used it to haul something, but when he did need to haul stuff, we could cram a whole lot into it.

Still, I'll take a small, nimble, great handling and comfortable car over a truck any day.

mulletman · 06-15-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gtrdave

Still, I'll take a small, nimble, great handling and comfortable car over a truck any day.

I'm with you there....

And I'll take a sunny day and a motorcycle over a car....

gtrdave · 06-15-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mulletman

I'm with you there....

And I'll take a sunny day and a motorcycle over a car....

Like today.

normajean777 · 06-16-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Bear

How much hauling do you do? I have had VERY few instances in the last year where a truck would have been useful personally.

Lots of hauling.

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Originally Posted by gtrdave

Are you in construction? Do you regularly tow a boat or a horse trailer? Maybe you have a lawn care business? Perhaps you live for the days when all of your friends ask you to help them move? Do you go "muddin'" often and/or do you have a snow plow mount on the front?
Other than those and maybe a few other reasons, I can't see anything practical about owning a truck.
15 mpg is not practical.
Excessive road noise is not practical.
5 point turns while trying to park is not practical.
I'm being serious here. Every time I think about getting a truck (and it's happened several times over my life) I list all of those things, realize that I do not fit any of those descriptions, and then nix the idea.

I work a trade. I don't personally own a truck. The truck I drive is my bosses truck. I use it to haul tons of stuff, and he uses it to tow a 5th wheel on his vacations.

When I can adequately afford to pay for a nice truck, and for the fuel (I've seen the truck get 400 km on a 120 l tank of fuel....), I definitely will. Trucks are magnificent, and so practical.

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Originally Posted by mulletman

See, this is funny.... I frequently see these trucks like the one in the picture you posted.... and I guarantee that no one is going to drive on anything other than pavement with those really expensive rims that look to be about 22's. Forget how much tires cost for a wheel that size, I don't even want to know. In short, the vast majority of the people who own trucks, never take them off road. Of the ones that do, they spend maybe 1% of their life there.

I live in Alberta. Expensive rims aren't so expensive when your 20 something and pulling in 100k per year.

bobthecockroach · 06-16-2011, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by normajean777

I live in Alberta. Expensive rims aren't so expensive when your 20 something and pulling in 100k per year.

Things cost the same regardless how much money you make. Lifestyle inflation is a dangerous thing.

gtrdave · 06-16-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by normajean777

Trucks are magnificent, and so practical.

For some. For others they are a total waste of space and fuel.
Most Europeans are baffled by so many American's being infatuated with owning a truck or large SUV as little more than a daily commuter. I'm American and I share their feelings.
But if owning a truck helps a person accomplish things that could only be done via truck ownership, by all means own a truck.

**redbaron** · 06-16-2011, 10:12 AM

I wouldn't run low profile tires on a truck that has a primary job of "tracking through mud" because it's retarded. But that's just me.

mulletman · 06-16-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by normajean777

When I can adequately afford to pay for a nice truck, and for the fuel (I've seen the truck get 400 km on a 120 l tank of fuel....), I definitely will. Trucks are magnificent, and so practical.

Meh, go for it.

Some people enjoy driving enough to seek out vehicles that are good at simply being driven, not for any other ability they may possess.

I definitely see the practicality in owning a work truck. I own one, and have used the crap out of it. But to 'pimp' out a truck is the absolute dumbest idea anyone has ever had. To be honest, aftermarket wheels in general are retarded. The only real purpose they could possibly serve is to cut un-sprung weight.

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Originally Posted by normajean777

I live in Alberta. Expensive rims aren't so expensive when your 20 something and pulling in 100k per year.

Cool? A big paycheck isn't going to help when your low-profile tires compromise traction on slippery surfaces....

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Originally Posted by normajean777

The truck I drive most often is 2500 Silverado, long box, extended cab. Much more fun than my car...

What kind of car do you drive?

normajean777 · 06-16-2011, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mulletman

Meh, go for it.

Some people enjoy driving enough to seek out vehicles that are good at simply being driven, not for any other ability they may possess.

I definitely see the practicality in owning a work truck. I own one, and have used the crap out of it. But to 'pimp' out a truck is the absolute dumbest idea anyone has ever had. To be honest, aftermarket wheels in general are retarded. The only real purpose they could possibly serve is to cut un-sprung weight.

Theres nothing wrong with having a really nice, and a practical truck.

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Cool? A big paycheck isn't going to help when your low-profile tires compromise traction on slippery surfaces....

Low profile tires? On a truck? Its usually like 22" rims and 33" tires.

All I'm saying is that there are tons of these guys, whose priorities belong to their trucks. And I agree with them, they all have really nice trucks, that impress me far more than a car of equal value.

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What kind of car do you drive?

An l200 saturn. See attached.

mulletman · 08-26-2011, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by normajean777

An l200 saturn.

I found the problem.

**scared2mosh** · 09-04-2011, 09:15 PM

indeed.

if you are pulling in the big bucks why dont you get an Evo or an STi? You can rally one of those up and it'll whoop any truck out there in looks and abilities. and if you get the hatchback version you can haul just about anything a normal person needs... then if you really need a truck for rare occasions of hauling large items get a cheap beatup old truck.