A stupid question

pooleman0 · 03-23-2011, 09:28 PM

I was thinking about this today. I have a Shure wireless guitar system that i use with my acoustic at church. Has anyone ever tried placing the wireless transmitter at the end of your pedal board and sending your signal to your amp wirelessly? Would it work.? Does it sound the same? I was thinking about even putting the guts of the transmitter into a Hammond enclosure and powering the transmitter off of my Pedal Power. Since they are both 9V it should work. Is this a good idea or just a stupid one? Can I market this?

**thesteve** · 03-23-2011, 09:43 PM

AFAIK it should work. I could see there being some issues with overdriving the input of the wireless unit though. Sound quality will be dependent on the quality of the unit.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 03-23-2011, 09:58 PM

can you market this? Probably not. Line6 is already on the wireless train.

ibanez_dude · 03-24-2011, 09:22 AM

Yeh, it should work theoretically. I echo Steve's comment about possibly overdriving the input of the wireless unit. You probably won't, but it's a possibility, especially if you have any kind of boost on your board that might bring your signal up closer to line level. I kinda don't see the point though, I'm curious why you'd want to do that. The point of a wireless unit is general to give you mobility, but the only thing I can see you gaining here is having one less cable to run. Just curious... EDIT: Though, I could see it being really kinda cool to have wireless both in/out of your board, and just have a free floating pedalboard.

**thesteve** · 03-24-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ibanez_dude

The point of a wireless unit is general to give you mobility, but the only thing I can see you gaining here is having one less cable to run. Just curious... EDIT: Though, I could see it being really kinda cool to have wireless both in/out of your board, and just have a free floating pedalboard.

I can see why, on a large stage, having the unit at the end of the board would be better than having it from the guitar to the board. I'm usually good to go with 20' of cable from my guitar to my board, but if the stage is more than 20' deep, it'd be nice to go wireless and not have to position my board further away from the edge of the stage than I'd like.

Bushman · 03-24-2011, 12:28 PM

So... If you had a wireless from your guitar to your p'board, and a wireless from your p'board to your amp.....
That would be way cool, or total tone suckage.
Interesting though!

pooleman0 · 03-24-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thesteve

I can see why, on a large stage, having the unit at the end of the board would be better than having it from the guitar to the board. I'm usually good to go with 20' of cable from my guitar to my board, but if the stage is more than 20' deep, it'd be nice to go wireless and not have to position my board further away from the edge of the stage than I'd like.

This was my reasoning. If the cable from the board to amp is too long sometimes you loose some highs in your tone. And if you run shorter cables to preserve your tone then you are too close to your amp to hear anything else.

Stratopastor · 03-24-2011, 02:20 PM

Try it... you can't damage it. I wish I'd had one at a church I don't usually play at, recently - incredibly deep stage and the usual, week in/week out setup did not expect a guitarist to be on the front line. No-one had a jk-jk cable long enough to get to the house guitar amp, which I wasn't allowed to bring forward.... you hear jokes about churches nearly splitting because someone tried to move the piano to the other side of the stage.... but that kind of conservatism has its modern technological equivalents... :-)

Major Tom · 03-24-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pooleman0

This was my reasoning. If the cable from the board to amp is too long sometimes you loose some highs in your tone. And if you run shorter cables to preserve your tone then you are too close to your amp to hear anything else.

My guess is that it would work OK, but if you use any boosting pedals like a clean boost or OD with the level turned up, you might exceed the unit's dynamic range, in which case it may clip the signal or compress it more than it usually would. You may be able to adjust a trim pot on the transmitter to help that issue. Aside from that, I would also guess that the wireless system itself, even when working within normal circumstances, will end up changing your tone more than an extra 5" or 10" of cable - they will change its freq content somewhat, and I think they have a compression/expander thing that will also change the tone/feel. But I do agree with the above post, you won't hurt it with a signal that's coming out of any pedal board, try it.

S.B.Nichols · 03-24-2011, 05:33 PM

I've considered trying this myself, but I always come to the conclusion that it would be a waste unless I'm trying to run a 50 foot cable from my board to the amp. Most of our boards are going to have at least one decent buffer on it that should negate the issue of an extra 10 feet of cable.

Still, if you are having a big problem with tone loss, or your area is just a mess, maybe it's worth a shot.

pooleman0 · 03-24-2011, 05:40 PM

It's not a need at all at this point. Just a thought that came to me.