[Art]

I am actually severely annoyed right now that I sold my BB and TDK DVDs. Lame.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Dwight Schrute

the word on the street is that this latest one won't measure up to the hype, I sure hope they are wrong.

How is there word on the street for a movie which hasn't even finished filming yet?


Unless the word on the street is based around the fact that no movie could deliver on the amount of hype surrounding this movie. The movie won't be released for a year, and we already have a 47 post discussion.

it didn't take long for the first modern Batman films to go from campy Burton fun to trainwrecked abomination, so who knows what will happen. but I definitely prefer the feel of the new series to the old cheezy Pee Wee's Playhouse Burton slop.

The Schumacher films were campy absurd. The two Burton films were just Burton-esque...which is to say quirky, creepy, and weird.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by JerRocks2day

I think the look on Catwoman is okay...not very amazing, but okay. I'm sure Nolan's gonna surprise us just like he did in Dark Knight.

It's only a couple of screen shots. So I wouldn't jump to too many conclusions. At the same time, I've thought the bat suit looked ridiculous in both of Nolans films.

[thesteve]

Originally Posted by Sean

The Schumacher films were campy absurd. The two Burton films were just Burton-esque...which is to say quirky, creepy, and weird.

This...

Burton's Joker and Catwoman were amazing characters. I was really pleased with Nolan's Joker, but I don't think it diminishes what Jack Nicholson did. I'm really interested in seeing Nolan's Catwoman to see how it compares to how Pfeiffer handled the character.

[Mr. RM]

The first Burton film (in my humble opinion) was absolutely genius. Keaton and Nicholson were spectacular. The second film seemed a bit darker...yet...campier.

I didn't care for either of the Schumacher films.

[Dwight Schrute]

I personally found the new joker more interesting than nicholson. turning the film into a sort of psychological thriller was a very welcome change from the typical superhero movie, IMO. but they all had their place, even Poison Ivy, I suppose. I dug the Burton catwoman, she seemed to have all sorts of complex emotional things going on which I think creates an interesting character. we'll see how the new one does.

[Mr. RM]

Originally Posted by Dwight Schrute

I personally found the new joker more interesting than nicholson. turning the film into a sort of psychological thriller was a very welcome change from the typical superhero movie, IMO. but they all had their place, even Poison Ivy, I suppose. I dug the Burton catwoman, she seemed to have all sorts of complex emotional things going on which I think creates an interesting character. we'll see how the new one does.

Heath Ledger was what saved that movie. I felt as if they had real gold with Eckhart's Dent/Two-Face and mis-used him.

But that's just me. It was still WAY better than either of the Schumacher films.

[Dwight Schrute]

oh no doubt. Ledger took that thing and ran with it all the way to legendary. his untimely death probably helped immortalize him as the joker, too. I probably would not have ever watched The Crow if not for the suspense of Lee's untimely death, and missed out on a stellar movie.

yeah they really had a very complex and deep character by the introduction of Harvey Two Face, then sort of fizzled him out. by the point of the hospital scene with Joker and Two Face (yeah the Joker was wearing a dress) I was pumped for another amazing twist of the story. and it ended with a kidnapping hostage situation? meh. what I will say is they really built up the bad guys in that film, to the point where I was hooked. the Joker was more built up by his outrageously psychotic behavior than actual character development - but I still get chills when Alfred talked about the guy in the village who just wanted the world to burn, and it zooms into the Joker's face. stellar work.

and hey - at least Ledger never did a goofy dance to some Prince music. top that one.

[JerRocks2day]

It's only a couple of screen shots. So I wouldn't jump to too many conclusions. At the same time, I've thought the bat suit looked ridiculous in both of Nolans films.

I know it's only a few screenshots-- that's why I'm holding my 100% judgement until I see the movie when it's released in theaters. Like I said, I'm sure Nolan will surprise us.

The Schumacher films were campy absurd.

Look on the bright side, at least we got a fun review by the Nostalgia Critic, and this infamous gag that shall forever live in infamy.

Bat Credit Card

*Warning== contains some mild language*

[Mr. RM]

Originally Posted by Dwight Schrute

and hey - at least Ledger never did a goofy dance to some Prince music. top that one.

Hey...I dig the Prince music from that.

[Mr. RM]

Watched Batman Begins last night...just to get reacquainted. I forgot how much I enjoyed that movie. I guess I'll have to pull out The Dark Knight this evening.

[Dwight Schrute]

the joker in the jail scenes are just pure genius, man. cruel, cold and calculating.

[bowstaff981]

So I rewatched Batman Begins the other day (hadn't seen it since theatrical release) because of all the talk about it on here. I think each Batman movie is only as good as the villain. We know Batman, we know what he'll do, we know his motivations, we know his thoughts. This makes him very predictable. Ra's al Ghul was such a boring and self righteous villain. He never did anything that made me fear that he would pull anything off. Scarecrow was interesting, but at the end of the day he was also not that threatening to Batman.

The Dark Knight actually delivered a villain to be feared. In the opening scene The Joker successfully robs a bank, kills the manager and orchestrates to have all the other robbers killed as well. So immediately we know that The Joker is a man to be feared. And that's just one small example of crazy stuff that he does. TDK also put Batman in a scene where we were completely unsure of how he would react with the Harvey/Rachel possible death. And then they killed off the love interest!!! TDK suffers from major pacing issues, but when compared to the rather emotionless Batman Begins I think TDK is still much better.

[Mr. RM]

Originally Posted by Dwight Schrute

the joker in the jail scenes are just pure genius, man. cruel, cold and calculating.

Originally Posted by bowstaff981

So I rewatched Batman Begins the other day (hadn't seen it since theatrical release) because of all the talk about it on here. I think each Batman movie is only as good as the villain. We know Batman, we know what he'll do, we know his motivations, we know his thoughts. This makes him very predictable. Ra's al Ghul was such a boring and self righteous villain. He never did anything that made me fear that he would pull anything off. Scarecrow was interesting, but at the end of the day he was also not that threatening to Batman.

The Dark Knight actually delivered a villain to be feared. In the opening scene The Joker successfully robs a bank, kills the manager and orchestrates to have all the other robbers killed as well. So immediately we know that The Joker is a man to be feared. And that's just one small example of crazy stuff that he does. TDK also put Batman in a scene where we were completely unsure of how he would react with the Harvey/Rachel possible death. And then they killed off the love interest!!! TDK suffers from major pacing issues, but when compared to the rather emotionless Batman Begins I think TDK is still much better.

Joker has always been Batman's most interesting villain in my opinion. It's a shame that he won't be able to pop up in the new film.

I still think they totally wasted the Dent/Two-Face character.

[thesteve]

Originally Posted by Role Modlin

Joker has always been Batman's most interesting villain in my opinion. It's a shame that he won't be able to pop up in the new film.

I still think they totally wasted the Dent/Two-Face character.

I agree with the waste of Two-Face. I think it would've been great for the third film to expound on his character's changes from the scarring.