Need help on first effect.

ABPOS · 12-27-2010, 09:43 PM

Tremelo. OK. I'm sort of confused what the difference is, seeins how when I think Vibrato I think of a Fender amp with Vibrato. OK, I think I get it, Tremolo is volume. Yes, I don't want no shifting in pitch. Just a touch of volume modulation. So that's a "tremelo"? OK, I think that's what I want. I think even just a slight amount gives it some movement. Even if it's barely discernable. The one I was talking about is pretty discernable, and I wouldn't play like that all the time of course.

Yeah Yeah, reverb. I'm sure it has some on it. It's still not my favorite. Although a touch of it might not be the worst idea. I'm just not a huge fan. I think most of the time it sounds fake to me. And yes, I know many good recordings have used it and I'm not saying I always think it's terrible. I just prefer a more, non reverbed up sound. More, up front and personal I guess. Or something like that. I think it's better used as an effect to the overall sound, than difference in levels from one instrument to another. Even though I'd still rather see less or none than more.

bobthecockroach · 12-28-2010, 06:32 AM

You have it correct. Tremolo is, strictly, volume modulation. Vibrato is pitch modulation.

Either one seems a very odd choice to beef up your tone.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 12-28-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bobthecockroach

You have it correct. Tremolo is, strictly, volume modulation. Vibrato is pitch modulation.

Either one seems a very odd choice to beef up your tone.

And Leo got those two confused, when he labeled fenders, so you would quite like the mislabeled tremolo, labeled vibrato. So just remember, on fender's Leo got it backwards, your trem unit is actually a vibrato unit and your amps vibrato is actually a trem. Maybe being born dyslexic actually helps with this one. I don't know.

Some old gibson amps, (which sound rather similar if you are looking at say, the skylark series have a trem. Some have a trem and reverb. To be honest, a really nice old amp reverb can be a beautiful subtle thing. IMO, reverb is often at its best when you can't quite tell it is there. I'm not a big over the top reverb guy usualy, but a little can be quite nice. Especially if you play a lot in a dead room.

**Rainer.** · 12-28-2010, 11:43 AM

Except all the other amp makers call it Tremolo when it's Tremolo. I love me a good Vox tremolo. My Peavey has a tremolo circuit, too.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 12-28-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainer.

Except all the other amp makers call it Tremolo when it's Tremolo. I love me a good Vox tremolo. My Peavey has a tremolo circuit, too.

Some of the Gibson circuits are pretty good too. Though if I were planning on using trem much, I would be careful and get one with depth and speed controls. My skylark has a fixed depth and frankly, its a little much to be practical for me.

Oh, and fwiw, that amp I picked up on ebay for the price of a stompbox. All tube, with a trem.

bobthecockroach · 12-28-2010, 11:51 AM

I know Voodoo Labs makes one with depth. Actually, I think it has depth, shape, speed, and some other control too.

ABPOS · 12-28-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

Some of the Gibson circuits are pretty good too. Though if I were planning on using trem much, I would be careful and get one with depth and speed controls. My skylark has a fixed depth and frankly, its a little much to be practical for me.

Oh, and fwiw, that amp I picked up on ebay for the price of a stompbox. All tube, with a trem.

Figures. I haven't had time to be looking that hard. Hmmmmm.... Thanks for the tips and I'll keep it in mind. And I think we're in agreement on the application of reverb. Everyone has different tastes though, because I know some really like that tall, airy vibe.

Stratopastor · 12-29-2010, 02:58 AM

Most simple tremolo pedals come with rate, depth, and a switch offering at least two settings for how smoothly/harshly the volume swings from high to low and back again. I use a Danelectro Cool Cat Tremolo and am very happy with it, but there are many others.

However, a quick re-read of jamforchrist's excellent sticky at the top of the "Effects" thread list would be in order at this point.... :-)

ABPOS · 12-29-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stratopastor

Most simple tremolo pedals come with rate, depth, and a switch offering at least two settings for how smoothly/harshly the volume swings from high to low and back again. I use a Danelectro Cool Cat Tremolo and am very happy with it, but there are many others.

However, a quick re-read of jamforchrist's excellent sticky at the top of the "Effects" thread list would be in order at this point.... :-)

Aaaah, thanks for the input!