[ethan_hanus]

That's why you don't let your church or your family run your life. You can't let someone tell you what to do, they can suggest, but if you let them control your actions then that just makes you a tool, to be bluntly honest. I've never been fond of people giving me bible verses to support their demands of you, to me it seems more like taking things out of context to fulfill your desires for that person. I don't like another man having control over what I do, God can do whatever he wants with me, but for me personally, would tell the pastor to mind his own business.

The parents, well, the parents need to get out in the world a little bit, sounds like Kirghistan or something. Some common sense in this situation would go a long way. If they are meant for each other then God will make sure that they will be together, I'm starting to believe more and more that if you try and force a relationship to be something it's not then it's going to fail, God has his plans for us.

[bobthecockroach]

Originally Posted by Kentl

I'm not sure what you mean by something deeper?


anyways
an update
she seemed to have "calmed" down
but when her family talks to her she goes at it again
her familys the huge problem
well her family their Pastor and their church

What do you mean she "goes at it?"

[bobthecockroach]

Originally Posted by ethan_hanus

That's why you don't let your church or your family run your life. You can't let someone tell you what to do, they can suggest, but if you let them control your actions then that just makes you a tool, to be bluntly honest. I've never been fond of people giving me bible verses to support their demands of you, to me it seems more like taking things out of context to fulfill your desires for that person. I don't like another man having control over what I do, God can do whatever he wants with me, but for me personally, would tell the pastor to mind his own business.

I know you just said you don't want Bible verses, but oh well, you're going to get them...

Hebrews 13:17
Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

1 Peter 5:5
Likewise, you who are younger, be subject to the elders. Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble."

And Paul's words to Titus, a leader in the church:

Titus 2:15
Declare these things; exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you.

I assure, I don't give you these verses to support my demands of you. I have no demands of you. I don't care what you do.

If anyone wants to follow God, however, they ought to submit to (that does not mean blindly obey) their church leaders. "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble."

[MtlMom]

I suspect that when it comes right down to it, her parents are concerned that this guy's core values are different from what they raised their daughter with.

Being a parent is terrifying, folks.

[jeepnstein]

You are one of his buddies. If you want to remain friends after he marries this girl I would suggest minding your own business. He's got choices to make and you may not like them. Life starts changing an awful lot after high school. Here's my advice to you... Never, ever, under any circumstance take sides or get involved in a disagreement between the two of them. Just make that part of their lives off-limits.