[mulletman]

Originally Posted by Kentl

and those who live in the miudle of no where near New Orleans do they pay the same thing?

You can't live in the middle of no-where, and live near a huge city at the same time.



Just saying.

[slap_j]

Originally Posted by Kentl

well show me a scientific reason why humans are more important and animals can be replaced humans cant?

I'll be more than happy to try if you give me a scientific reason why "it's not a right/wrong thing" so I can see what on earth you mean by "scientific reason."

is someone believing that there color is better then someone eless wrong?
whats the deferent?

What's the difference between choosing which color your prefer and choosing what value to apply to a living being? Seriously? You said yourself that a person's value consists in their being made a living thing by God.

If i had to save the kitne or the kid i dont know what i do

I'm not asking what you would do. I'm asking whether you believe choosing to save a kitten instead of an infant is morally upright.

[Kentl]

Originally Posted by The Phantom Mullet

You can't live in the middle of no-where, and live near a huge city at the same time.



Just saying.

I live near San Antonio but I am in the middle of no where
so you can

where i live has no fire department we have a group that helps but its with hoses not a real one


so you can
and i do

nothing but farm lands for miles
how ever I'm very close to geting my mail form San Antonio (the neighobors donw the road get theres firm there) since we dont live in another city (they one i get it form now is elmendorf which is small but closer by very liltle)

[Kentl]

Originally Posted by slap_j

I'll be more than happy to try if you give me a scientific reason that "it's not a right/wrong thing" so I can see what on earth you mean by "scientific reason."

because
we are no defreint scientific
we all have blood and organs
we all are living things

by defnation we all are lviing things

Originally Posted by slap_j

What's the difference between choosing which color your prefer and choosing what value to apply to a living being? Seriously? You said yourself that a person's value consists in their being made a living thing by God.

is not an animal made by god also?
your point is moot

Originally Posted by slap_j

I'm not asking what you would do. I'm asking whether you believe choosing to save a kitten instead of an infant is morally upright.

I do not

I believe both deserve equal chance to live

[slap_j]

Originally Posted by Kentl

because
we are no defreint scientific
we all have blood and organs
we all are living things

by defnation we all are lviing things

That is a total non sequitur.

is not an animal made by god also?
your point is moot

Shawn, I'm pointing out how incoherent you're being. You say there is no difference in choosing which color you prefer and I used your own words to show you didn't actually believe that.

I do not

I believe both deserve equal chance to live

But the scenario I'm presenting only gives the fireman the opportunity to choose to save one. So if he saved the kitten instead of the child would it be just as ethical as decision as if he chose to save the child instead of the kitten?

[doulos14]

Originally Posted by Kentl

because
we are no defreint scientific
we all have blood and organs
we all are living things

by defnation we all are lviing things



is not an animal made by god also?
your point is moot





I do not

I believe both deserve equal chance to live

Bout to get theological

1st, how bout a moral system, animals don't follow one, they will happily eat their own children, while most people wouldn't even do that to survive.

2nd, A soul, Animals have no religion, no desire to worship God, they can't comprehend a necessity for God

3rd, Who cares if animals have blood and organs too. Jeffery Dahmer had organs like I do, but I'm not a serial killer, because I don't have mental problems. Because you see, where we differ from animals is our capacity to think. Animals can learn, but they can not think on our level, you don't see monkeys flying airplanes they built, or doing multi-variable calculus.

I have nothing against the right of animals to live, I certainly don't go out and kill every animal I can find, because i think they don't deserve to live.

You also know this as the food chain, you can say a bear and a salmon are equal, but that salmon's equality doesn't do much when its being eaten by the bear. Same thing with us, would you rather be killed by the bear, or kill it. Doesn't it in fact deserve to live? so therefore you should let it kill you right?

God never once made any such case as the fact of equality, Yes God created us as well as animals, but did he say we were equal, most certainly not, I do believe He said, go out and subdue the earth, not "don't hurt the animals cause they are your equals"

[Kentl]

Originally Posted by doulos14

Bout to get theological

1st, how bout a moral system, animals don't follow one, they will happily eat their own children, while most people wouldn't even do that to survive.

not all animals eat their young and some humans do

Originally Posted by doulos14

2nd, A soul, Animals have no religion, no desire to worship God, they can't comprehend a necessity for God

neither can a baby is a baby not as improvement?
also show me in the bible animals have no souls

Originally Posted by doulos14

3rd, Who cares if animals have blood and organs too. Jeffery Dahmer had organs like I do, but I'm not a serial killer, because I don't have mental problems. Because you see, where we differ from animals is our capacity to think. Animals can learn, but they can not think on our level, you don't see monkeys flying airplanes they built, or doing multi-variable calculus.

but you do see ternamite4s work together to make a burling which we have never built if we scale their size
you also see many animals work at a level humans enevr have
and animals notice things we don't

Originally Posted by doulos14

I have nothing against the right of animals to live, I certainly don't go out and kill every animal I can find, because i think they don't deserve to live.

You also know this as the food chain, you can say a bear and a salmon are equal, but that salmon's equality doesn't do much when its being eaten by the bear. Same thing with us, would you rather be killed by the bear, or kill it. Doesn't it in fact deserve to live? so therefore you should let it kill you right?

when something kills its about three things most of the time

Food
Territory
young

a bear kills me he may eat me
he is right
if i kill the bear to survive i am right

neither is wrong
i see nothing wrong with defending your self

what is wrong is animals dying for none of the three reasons mitioend above

Originally Posted by doulos14

God never once made any such case as the fact of equality, Yes God created us as well as animals, but did he say we were equal, most certainly not, I do believe He said, go out and subdue the earth, not "don't hurt the animals cause they are your equals"

subdue as in rule
as in we are the "kings of creation"
how ever just because someone is a rural dose not mean they are more improvident
is king tut mor imorpant thjen you?
is any rulear more impoanrt (exscluding god)

[Kentl]

Originally Posted by slap_j

That is a total non sequitur.



Shawn, I'm pointing out how incoherent you're being. You say there is no difference in choosing which color you prefer and I used your own words to show you didn't actually believe that.

I meanty being racist
i tried to say it as nice as possable sorry for an confusing

Originally Posted by slap_j

But the scenario I'm presenting only gives the fireman the opportunity to choose to save one. So if he saved the kitten instead of the child would it be just as ethical as decision as if he chose to save the child instead of the kitten?

let me turn the tables
one guy one girl
which do you save?
can you cawnser?
if so then why not?
because they are equal?
same thing for me

can you awsner?
if so which one?

[Demon_Hunter]

Another thread descended into the infernal bowels of ridiculum with Shawn holding the reigns. This entire discussion is the very definition of complete and utter madness.

[adamwagg]

I think we've gone off topic far enough and everyone's had their say on the original topic. If you wanna further discuss the philosphical equality of animals and humans go nuts in the philosphy forum.