[Kentl]

Originally Posted by gtrdave

So, because you feel that you're "geting no wher", you think that you are qualified to dismiss the positive benefits of something that you can't do?

if i climb moutn evreats for over 36 hours and only get up two feet i think its safe to asumme i cant climb it

[gtrdave]

Originally Posted by Kentl

if i climb moutn evreats for over 36 hours and only get up two feet i think its safe to asumme i cant climb it

I think it's safer to assume that you're going about mountain climbing all wrong.

[Kentl]

Originally Posted by gtrdave

I think it's safer to assume that you're going about mountain climbing all wrong.

lol
this would be ture
but just to be sirooiuse
i am not those 36 hours are spent with a teacher with me the whole time
remeber the time threads when everey saeummer
A: i was not really [ratcing
B i was practing wrong


i posted vids to show i was doing both right


i really dont want to do that buyt if i must i will

[tenwatt]

Originally Posted by Kentl

how dose knowing to read msuic let me know how to make an apergieo?


this is simply not true
show me proof that knwouing this would show me how


and tell me how do you make a apefeio?

i asked about the E amjoir you did not reply (that i saw)
and no one did so i asumed i was right

how do you make apeigoes

how dose learning to read msuic help you know to make three note apeogios?

If you know how to read music you most likely know what notes are in a chord. If you know what notes are in a chord you can create an arpeggio of that chord. If you were familiar with music notation you would also likely be familiar with the term arpeggio. It's not an uncommon term.

Your E major was a correct possiblity:

4
6
4

[gtrdave]

Originally Posted by Kentl

lol
this would be ture
but just to be sirooiuse
i am not those 36 hours are spent with a teacher with me the whole time
remeber the time threads when everey saeummer
A: i was not really [ratcing
B i was practing wrong


i posted vids to show i was doing both right


i really dont want to do that buyt if i must i will

Are you saying that the total time of your sight reading practice was done in the presence of your teacher?

[Kentl]

Originally Posted by tenwatt

If you know how to read music you most likely know what notes are in a chord. If you know what notes are in a chord you can create an arpeggio of that chord. If you were familiar with music notation you would also likely be familiar with the term arpeggio. It's not an uncommon term.

Your E major was a correct possiblity:

4
6
4

you also say most liekly which means that you asuume you know other stuff

how ever i am learning how to read sheet msuci and none of this has come up at all

so this is simply not true
could you learn later?
yes but it is not requierd to read music
you did not lsiting i use arpeggios all the time in my sogns go look up my CGR band "shawn belcher"
you will hear the apeggios
i know how ti use them

i just did not know if three strign apegioes where defreint

and to be honest i dont know the C#m chord
a quick bare chord check i could not find it
nor could i find a C# scale
so i am a lost there

i know the notes in E majoir its
E B Ab B E

i also know A
and
B
D
C
D
and if i dont reacll i just play the scale and fidn the note


i know the notes on the freet bored and the notes of the chords

[Kentl]

Originally Posted by gtrdave

Are you saying that the total time of your sight reading practice was done in the presence of your teacher?

No remebr im not counting my by my self time because I difer times a lot

i pratice at hime evrey day the time i pratice it difers

but i wont count it becuse if i did
it would not be a true number of hours but a guess

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Originally Posted by Kentl

yes learning to read musis will give me immediate gratification
but then i will never use it

No, it won't, learning to read tab will, I knwo you aren't going to pay attention, but voice of experience. I have been there. You will need it, and you won't have it, and that will be the difference between rock star and hobby.

umm those guys wont be using tab
only the gutirist dose

Now consider, I paly all of those a little bit. I would be doing this arrangement for me. Wouldn't it be stupid to have to learn new methods for each instrument?

Probably, you will want to pick up another instrument or two at some point in your life.

they wont be reading my sheet

its only for me

You never have played in a band context that was doing well. What do you do when the other guitarist walks over and scribbles out your chord chart and says, "that didn't sound right, lets change this, and throws a little melody down on your paper in standard. Maybe its just 6 notes, but that happens.

becuse its simplar and gives you eact what to play
unlike reaing music in which you can play it high\low

Which means you learn a pathway to play a song, not how to play a song. I once watched a video where a great guitarist showed the range of emotion that moving a piece, note for note the same changed it. He kept his tempos the same and there were subtle shifts in the music. But it made the difference between good and exquisite.

i have to unlearn it why?

Because it is bad form. Nobody uses a standard form of tab and if you ever play with real musicians, it is like bringing a slingshot to a gunfight.

i dont know about you but with songster i can elarn songs fatser then my gutiar teach who is a very good sheet reader

And speed of learning of a song has nothing to do with the validity of a method. In fact, it has very little to do with playing guitar.

im a gutrist not any other insutment

For now, but suppose someday you need to cover the keyboard part to a song on stage. Its happened to me a few times. You do have to be able to read their music as well. Besides, perhaps you want to learn other instruments in 10 years. Would you rather have an easy transition? Or have to start over, learning what you had the chance to now? Suppose you decide you like a genre that isn't currently widely written for guitar. How are you going to play it? Simply put, you won't be able to.

back tehn good tabs did not go far

now days they can

That is just a simple matter of untruth. Tabs are pretty much the same. Yeah, some programs now incorporate some midi now, but that was available in 1984, wasnt widely used, but tabs were around.

They suck because they give you one, often awkward way to play a song without understanding of it. It is the difference in painting a masterpiece, and painting by numbers.

look at songster show me how these tabs suck

they are really good

If you want to rote copy the guy who tabbed it who stands about a 10% chance of being close to right.

they dont all suck
its very simple to follow and most are right

No Shawn, once you get out of simple pop and rock, they quickly become a joke. They are in varied tunings, strange fingerings, wrong keys, etc.

[gtrdave]

Well, all I can say is discipline and repetition are the keys to productive practicing.
You may never be a pro at it, but if you make your sight reading practice consistent then you will only get better at it.
You might not make it to the top of Mount Everest, but you'll go father than 2 feet up.

[Kentl]

Originally Posted by gtrdave

Well, all I can say is discipline and repetition are the keys to productive practicing.
You may never be a pro at it, but if you make your sight reading practice consistent then you will only get better at it.
You might not make it to the top of Mount Everest, but you'll go father than 2 feet up.

But the truth is there is a point where you cant learn any more
take another five months to learn to morw strings?
be a year and ahlf ebfore i get the basic natural notes in first psotion down
and thats just the basiecs
If you stuck on the same two strings after that much time don’t you think I wais person will admit maybe its not for them?

would you learn this if it toook you four years to learn even the basices?
i highyl highly highly doubet it

[thesteve]

Can we just close this? This is a rehash of a gargantuan thread from just a few weeks ago involving all of the same people.