07-28-2010, 09:16 PM
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#16 | | WELL FOR WILLING PARTY
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Originally Posted by jamforchrist123 I totally thought I was going to be completely done... Then out of nowhere I get this awful gas for an AC30. I pray that very soon after I get rid of a lot of stuff that I'll have a simple, great sounding rig that I'm happy with and feel no need to buy anything else. | Isaac, you're just not that kinda guy. Hate to break it to you Quote:
Originally Posted by ibanez_dude ha, selling my guitars to buy underwear is a new low, hope i never get that far  i don't know about gain stages in cascading sense, but I can think of at least 5-6 OD/DS units I could justify having on my board to be used separately. I know cause I got up to 4-5 of them a while back, and i was quite happy. | There's nothing wrong with having a bunch of OD on your board, I've just found that I become more satisfied when I can achieve just as many sounds with less stuff. It allows me to concentrate on my playing a lot more. Quote:
Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq The day I have to choose between underwear and selling my last guitar is the day before I go commando. | Quote:
Originally Posted by metal4Christ This is seriously not a bad idea to consider. Do be aware however that combining pedals often leads to a very compressed sound which isn't great for chords but is quite useful for a singing lead tone. In which case generally if you've got more than one drive going at once it's assumed that you're going for a lead tone. | I don't know that I'd agree that combining pedals often=compressed sound. Most of the time when I have either of my drive stages on, my boost is on in front of it. Many OD/Dist pedals simply cascade gain stages within themselves to achieve their grit so trying different combos of the pedals you have is a good experiment to do. |
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07-28-2010, 10:21 PM
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#17 | | Bulldogge Administrator
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Originally Posted by relient nelson I don't know that I'd agree that combining pedals often=compressed sound. Most of the time when I have either of my drive stages on, my boost is on in front of it. Many OD/Dist pedals simply cascade gain stages within themselves to achieve their grit so trying different combos of the pedals you have is a good experiment to do. | I agree. Usually when I cascade 3-4 pedals the result is NOT compressed. Its a very, very different theory of using pedals but you can get a really open sound that way. Generally for my light, open drive sound I use 2-3 pedals stacked into each other. If you use a little drive off of multiple pedals the result can be as compressed as you make it. If you keep volume at unity and add just a hair of drive with each pedal as I tend towards it can be very, very uncompressed.
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07-29-2010, 06:58 AM
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#18 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by relient nelson And then there's the other side of things, where after six months you realize that you really didn't need 6 gain stages on your board. This realization is often brought about forcefully after you sell something to make a car payment, buy food, underwear, etc.
Hmm.. if I were you this is what I would do. I would sell the noise gate. Then I would buy a 1spot daisy chain power supply ($30 or so to be able to power five pedals, expandable up to 20 pedals or so). Running power from the 1spot should make everything run much cleaner and as a result, sound better. You also might come out with a little bit of cash left over from selling the noise gate.
Also, do you ever have more than one of your ODs on at once? Again, if I were you I would sell the Satchurator. Then experiment with running your Fulldrive 2 into your ice9. There are tons of ways to get heavier sounds, as Bill mentioned to some degree in your other thread.
Experiment with maxing out the boost knob on your Fulldrive and then stomping it on when you need that extra grit. So basically, you would be able to achieve five OD sounds, with just the two pedals.
Like this: Fulldrive 2 drive side= Low drive cleanish boost
Fulldrive 2 drive side plus boost side= Really cutting, lead tone
Ice 9= Medium range overdrive
Fulldrive 2 drive side plus Ice 9= Medium range overdrive with a bit more edge to it. The Fulldrive would add more chime (especially when set to "compcut" mode)
Fulldrive 2 drive side and boost side plus Ice 9= "Heavy" overdrive. Lots of boost, lots of chime, lots of grit.
I'm close-ish... just need a Deluxe Memory Boy and then I will be restricted budget-wise for quite a while. haha |
I actually have a daisy chain, but doesn't it need a pedal that has an "in and out" power input? I actually just sold the noise gate and bought a Boss Tuner pedal that will supply power to the other pedals. I've been needing one anyway!
I honestly don't need the Satchurator for live playing, but I keep it because I like to play covers of Satriani songs in my free time. it is strictly used for fun and in home use which is why I don't sell it. Plus, it used to be fun to turn on at practice when the other guitar players start getting the big head  Something about that pedal stacked with the fulltone just SINGS!
So, I've listened to what you said and sold the Noise Suppressor and Ibanez Delay on Ebay last night. I was amazed at how quickly they sold. I replaced the Ibanez with the Boss DD-3 and the Noise Suppressor with the Tuner. I also got a Boss Chorus for $50 new on Ebay.
So, when it all comes in I will post some pics and maybe some sound clips on soundclick. Really looking forward to getting it all hooked up! |
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07-29-2010, 08:13 AM
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#19 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
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Originally Posted by gitaryzt1985 I actually have a daisy chain, but doesn't it need a pedal that has an "in and out" power input? I actually just sold the noise gate and bought a Boss Tuner pedal that will supply power to the other pedals. I've been needing one anyway! | The Godlyke and Visual Sound daisy chains have an input plug and several output plugs, unlike the Roland/Boss chain which has all the same type of plug. |
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07-29-2010, 08:50 AM
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#20 | | Registered User
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| Boss makes one with an input plug, too. I had one for a while. Its not bad.
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07-29-2010, 10:00 AM
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#21 | | Meat Popsicle
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Originally Posted by gitaryzt1985 So, I've listened to what you said and sold the Noise Suppressor and Ibanez Delay on Ebay last night. I was amazed at how quickly they sold. I replaced the Ibanez with the Boss DD-3 and the Noise Suppressor with the Tuner. I also got a Boss Chorus for $50 new on Ebay. | Good, that addressed the giant gaping hole I was about to point out. No guitar rig is complete without a tuner. Quote:
Originally Posted by thesteve The Godlyke and Visual Sound daisy chains have an input plug and several output plugs, unlike the Roland/Boss chain which has all the same type of plug. | Indeed. I have 2 Visual Sound One Spots powering my board now (got a lot of pedals that draw a lot of current).
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07-30-2010, 10:29 PM
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#22 | | Okagesama de genki desu
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Originally Posted by relient nelson There's nothing wrong with having a bunch of OD on your board, I've just found that I become more satisfied when I can achieve just as many sounds with less stuff. It allows me to concentrate on my playing a lot more.
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