[Rainer.]

Originally Posted by ithomas1600

i doubt it is area 51 it is more likely (in my opinion) either a secret hiding place for the pres with bomb proof metal buildings below,

Something like Site R, for example?

Since the President definitely isn't going to go to President Kennedy's old bomb shelter in Palm Beach, Florida.

a terrorist holding facility where they still practice waterboarding and other " illeagel" forms of torture.

For various reasons, the most likely locations for Black sites isn't in the middle of the Nevada desert, but rather on U.S. operated locations overseas (think Guantanamo).

or the third possibility i could understand is a possible testing zone for god knows what

Like the Blackbird or the U-2? Those are at least two of the more famous Area 51 tests. Not to mention any status of the Aurora project.

It's a giant series of runways in the desert with a bunch of hangars. Of course there's something being tested there. Try walking into KFC headquarters and asking them about the 11 herbs and spices.

[redbaron]

Regarding the tapes, I think a good place to start is wikipedia, especially since you can check the sources that they cite (to ensure it's actually accurate) Missing Apollo 11 Tapes

I'd also highly suggest reading the entire Moon Landing Conspiracy Theories section, as it covers just about all of them, and the rebuttals.

To be honest, there's more observable evidence that the moon landing happened than there is for most of the posters in this threads existence. I'm pretty sure they exist, there's just less evidence that I can observe to actually prove it.

The real, number one reason that it's patently obvious that we actually went, and landed on the moon at Mare Tranquillitatis on July 20th, 1969 is simply this:

The Soviets accepted it as fact.

They had the means to verify & disprove the event, they had the equipment to monitor the spaceflight, and they had the reasons to reveal to the world if we faked it. Can you imagine the political fallout if the Kremlin had proved we faked something as important as the moon landing?

[JerryLove]

I don't believe in the moon. It's just the back of the sun.

[redbaron]

maybe God pulls one of those strings like the light in my old basement and turns the sun off at night. that would certainly account for the flat earth society and their information's validity.

I'm guessing all those pictures of the earth taken where it looks like a sphere are a vast right wing conspiracy.

[ICTHUS]

Originally Posted by ithomas1600

i think most things today are conspiricy

I, Lexaeus, will not yield the frail heart of an infantile coward! Eso es lo que ella dijo
its all a conspiracy and i believe it i think most things today are conspiracy EOS although has any1 seen what the Government has done to the Bp website i hate it in a couple o years the GOV will have control so tight on the web people will fly to China to have freedom people willingly sacrifice and give away the freedoms this country was founded on out of laziness and stupidity EOS our rights are slipping and GOV is becoming a dictatorship soon we’ll be under the rule of a tyrant not a president although as i see it i will soon be requested to change this part of my sig due to the strong opinionated beliefs so i am stating that this is a show of my beliefs and in no way am i attempting to sway the views of others nor change the thought process of any one who has read this brief statement in conclusion i believe the moon landing was fake along with all UFO claims and i believe area51 is where all the faking happens the security is as tight as it is because the things that happen there cant be found out without ruining the entire GOV

I think conspiracy theorists should need to be able to spell 'conspiracy' and use punctuation and grammar before their ideas are taken seriously. Seriously. I didn't count a single period in that entire signature full of nonsense.

Stay in school, ithomas1600.

[ICTHUS]

Originally Posted by redbaron

The Soviets accepted it as fact.

In Soviet Russia, fact prove veracity of YOU!!

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Now this is a moon conspiracy.

Despicable Me Movie Clips & Scenes - Steal the Moon

[jlynnb1]

Does no one watch Mythbusters? They busted every conspiracy theoritst objection to the moon landing.....

[Rainer.]

Originally Posted by jthomas1600

Myth busters have done a pretty good job of explaining away the questions about the moonlanding and there's no way those guys are a part of the conspiracy engine.

Originally Posted by Cam42

I will point you toward mythbusters. They did an excellent job of proving that we did, in fact land on the moon. I'd get you a link, but i'm on my mobile atm.

Indeed.

[JerryLove]

Originally Posted by jlynnb1

Does no one watch Mythbusters? They busted every conspiracy theoritst objection to the moon landing.....

So all the science and evidence didn't disprove the conspiracy, but mythbusters did?

[jthomas1600]

Mythbusters did a good job of taking all the conspiracy theory claims like the flag flying in the wind, the lack of shadows, foot prints, etc. and using science experiments to refute them. I know they're not the first guys to do this, but they did a good job of putting all together and making it easy to understand. It's a great show.

[Rainer.]

Originally Posted by JerryLove

So all the science and evidence didn't disprove the conspiracy, but mythbusters did?

Mythbusters is helping the layperson catch up.

That and Kari Byron is hawt.

[redbaron]

Frankly I thought Penn & Teller's BullS**t! about the moon conspiracies was considerably better than mythbusters.

Well, except for Kari Byron, but that goes without saying.