06-22-2010, 09:25 PM
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#2 | | Be happy
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| Well, it's not like the parents could say "no." They might ruin their children's lives!
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06-22-2010, 09:32 PM
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#3 | | Exiled user
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| And people wonder why the world is going to crap? Really?
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06-22-2010, 10:33 PM
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#4 | | Aussie Aussie Aussie
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| Bit of a long bow really and if McDonald's is found to be bad at this point then that would suggest the law is probably a bit strict. There has to be some sense of personal responsbility on parents. |
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06-22-2010, 10:34 PM
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#5 | | Be happy
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Originally Posted by adamwagg There has to be some sense of personal responsbility on parents. | The last couple of decades of legal precedent disagree.
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06-22-2010, 10:46 PM
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#6 | | Registered User
Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Monroe, WA Posts: 318
| Wow............just wow. It's pretty sad that the parent can't just say "no". But that's what the world has come to these days, blaming other people/companies for your own problems. |
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06-23-2010, 04:16 PM
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#7 | | Unto Us A Child Is Born
Joined: May 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 3,765
| I believe they are right - McDonald's does subversively draw the whole family by targeting the kids first - but suing is not the answer. Parents saying "No" is the answer.
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06-23-2010, 04:20 PM
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#8 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
| FWIW, the guys suing aren't parents but some political group. |
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06-23-2010, 04:23 PM
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#9 | | Registered User
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this isn't happening. I don't believe it.
This is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. |
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06-23-2010, 04:49 PM
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#10 | | Meat Popsicle
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,294
| This is the most ridiculous thing ever. This is worse than Hot Coffee Lady. Seriously! This should be thrown out of court. It is neither McDonald's nor the Government's responsibility to regulate this. It's the responsibility of the parent. Hari ☺☺☺☺ing Krishna, I'm sick and tired of people forgetting the government's and the parent's role. Their parents probably neglected them.
Furthermore, I don't blame McDonald's, also not their responsibility. Their only responsibility is making a profit. If somebody doesn't like their product, they aren't forcing anybody to buy it. Quote: |
"At some point parents get worn down," Jacobson says. "They don't always want to be saying no to their children. We feel like an awful lot of parents would be relieved if this one pressure was removed from them."
| If a parent can't say no to their children then they're terrible parents and their kid's have no chance anyways. What's gonna happen when their 13 year old daughter wants to bring her 18 year old boyfriend upstairs to her room. Well... first they'd be a terrible parent for letting that girl have a 18 year old boyfriend but if they can't say no to a ☺☺☺☺ing happy meal, why would they say no then? I guess that's another thing they shouldn't have to say no too.
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06-23-2010, 04:53 PM
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#11 | | Exiled user
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Originally Posted by Ax This is the most ridiculous thing ever. This is worse than Hot Coffee Lady. Seriously! This should be thrown out of court. It is neither McDonald's nor the Government's responsibility to regulate this. It's the responsibility of the parent. Hari ☺☺☺☺ing Krishna, I'm sick and tired of people forgetting the government's and the parent's role. Their parents probably neglected them.
Furthermore, I don't blame McDonald's, also not their responsibility. Their only responsibility is making a profit. If somebody doesn't like their product, they aren't forcing anybody to buy it.
If a parent can't say no to their children then they're terrible parents and their kid's have no chance anyways. What's gonna happen when their 13 year old daughter wants to bring her 18 year old boyfriend upstairs to her room. Well... first they'd be a terrible parent for letting that girl have a 18 year old boyfriend but if they can't say no to a ☺☺☺☺ing happy meal, why would they say no then? I guess that's another thing they shouldn't have to say no too.  | +10^1000
this is rediculous
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06-23-2010, 04:56 PM
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#12 | | The People's Super Moderator
Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Aldergrove, BC, Canada Posts: 15,789
| When I was a kid, I always wanted to get fast food, the preferred choice being Burger King. They had a kid's meal, complete with toy and you bet I wanted to get that toy.
My parents, not being complete dip****s, frequently said no. Shockingly, it didn't ruin my life. |
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06-23-2010, 05:14 PM
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#13 | | Registered User
Joined: Mar 2008 Location: In the great state of Texas Posts: 3,994
| Pretty much everyone has covered my feelings on the issue. So rather than just repeat what's already been said I will point out that occasionally corporations and marketing firms need to be held accountable and their tactics need to be examined. I'll just throw candy cigarettes out as one example. |
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06-23-2010, 05:36 PM
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#14 | | OOOO
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Originally Posted by jthomas1600 ...corporations and marketing firms need to be held accountable and their tactics need to be examined. I'll just throw candy cigarettes out as one example. | That's why I wonder why everyone is harping on the parents. Of course the parents aren't doing their job. That's not a controversial assessment. The question is what sort of responsibilities does McDonald's have. If it's just to the shareholder let's bring back Joe Camel.
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06-23-2010, 05:44 PM
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#15 | | Meat Popsicle
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| Okay, another thing: Why are we vilifying fast food? I mean, I love home cooked food but lets face it, in the world we live in, it's an impossibility for most families to cook every night! Should fast food then become more bland and less tasty so the kids wont want it all the time? because I mean come on... if McDonalds were any less tasty it would hardly be food (fries excluded). It's FAST food.
It's not like it's a chemically addicting cancer causing age controlled substance? Comparing them to cigarettes? Really? Joe Camel? That was an ad campaign to get KIDS to smoke cigarettes. Kids smoking cigarettes is hardly equivalent to fast food. You might as well say that the Kool Aid guy is irresponsible advertisement. Or really any advertisement geared towards children because their parents should be making all their decisions anyways.
This is all rather ridiculous.
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