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Old 06-23-2010, 05:54 PM   #16
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Old 06-23-2010, 05:57 PM   #17
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Comparing them to cigarettes? Really? Joe Camel? That was an ad campaign to get KIDS to smoke cigarettes. Kids smoking cigarettes is hardly equivalent to fast food.
You invited the comment when you said McDonald's only responsibility was to make a profit. Why isn't that the case with R.J. Reynolds too? Or where is the threshold where they have an additional responsibility to consumers?
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:10 PM   #18
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You invited the comment when you said McDonald's only responsibility was to make a profit. Why isn't that the case with R.J. Reynolds too? Or where is the threshold where they have an additional responsibility to consumers?
I guess they have the responsibility of not selling a controlled substance to minors. But that's a legal issue as well. Certainly fast food is not equivalent of Alcohol or Tobacco!
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:20 PM   #19
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I wasn't trying to make an apple to apple comparison with tobacco and fast food. I was just pointing out that it's not unprecedented for the courts to see a need to step in and hold corporations and marketing firms to some standards. I could also point out that in places I have lived the tone of the 1-900 chat line/soft porn adds changes drastically after a certain time ( I think 11pm) which is just another example of marketers being forced to meet certain standards.
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:26 PM   #20
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But again, you're talking about something that is legally set for an older audience. Children calling a sex line or seeing porn is regulated by law. Food isn't. Fast Food is not a controlled substance and fast food is not something that will inherently ruin a child's life. Anything, literally anything in excess is bad. I've known parents who's kids failed school because they watched too much TV or played outside too much. That's on the parents, not the child. The answer to childhood obesity is NOT banning fast food, it's kicking stupid parents in the seat of their pants.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:14 PM   #21
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Okay, another thing: Why are we vilifying fast food? I mean, I love home cooked food but lets face it, in the world we live in, it's an impossibility for most families to cook every night!
To be fair, most families that are eating fast food all the time are doing it more out of sheer laziness than some mythical impossibility.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:18 PM   #22
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From MacDonald's standpoint--it's marketing--and it seems to work quite well.

As has been pointed out--parents can say no.

Kids may not have the discernment needed, but the parents should.
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I guess they have the responsibility of not selling a controlled substance to minors.
We're talking about marketing here. Legal issues aside, why shouldn't R.J. Reynolds be permitted to market to kids?

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But that's a legal issue as well. Certainly fast food is not equivalent of Alcohol or Tobacco!
I'm not arguing that tobacco is the same as fast food. My point is that both products are linked to serious public health issues in America. My goodness, I don't want to ban either of them. I just question what we owe one another as people, not just as business and consumer. The buck stops with the parents but that doesn't mean no one else has responsibilities.
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Group will sue McDonald's over Happy Meal toys - Yahoo! News

The words used in my initial reaction to this article are not CGR appropriate.
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I agree that if the parents can't say "No" now, imagine the problems that will create in 5-10 years. Extremely bad parenting.
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the fact is, 4 chicken nuggets, some slices of apple and a container of milk or juice are pretty decent, and if you're concerned about sugar you can just skip the dippin' sauce for the apples.

It's all about what parents want to give their kids, and as one of the commenters on that article put it:

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No trying to be your kids friend is. Its time to be a parent and say NO
People need to grow up and not wait for everyone to babysit them when they're freaking adults.
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