What Delay do I get.

DropKick74 · 06-07-2010, 10:59 AM

So I'm really looking into getting another delay pedal. I've owned a couple but the market is so full of different makers and pedals i'm really confused. So far i've owned a Line 6 DL4 and at the time I thought it was the cause of some tone coloration that didn't agree with me. I sold it for a TC nova delay. I really liked that pedal but it had it's drawbacks. since then i had one of those sold everything i owned and replace it all because my musical tastes have changed so much. (i went from a full on metal head to a blues and country artist LOL) so i sold the nova delay. recently i bought a nova repeater from TC but i just didn't like that pedal to sterile or something, i can't quite tell you what it was so i sold that as well.

I'm looking for a pedal that will mainly cover that Hillsong stuff for church but at the same time i would like some cool slapback sounds as well. I'm thinking to that i might need another multi delay to achieve this unless you can give me a single pedal option.

does any one know what hillsong uses. does he place his before the amp or after. right now i have a fender strat into a boost into od into wah into my classic 30 peavey.

I play hillsong, tomlin, john mayer, SRV, Hendrix and stuff. the delay is mainly to cover my church end of things but i alson know John Mayer uses delay too. what does he use also is his before the amp or after.

so what do you delay people recommend for me.

**tenwatt** · 06-07-2010, 11:19 AM

John Mayer uses (or did use) this. I use this.

DropKick74 · 06-07-2010, 12:03 PM

That looks really cool but it's a little out of the price range. I guess i should say that i dont really want to go over 200 but i'll buy new or used.

relient nelson · 06-07-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tenwatt

John Mayer uses (or did use) this. I use this.

Only thing about the eventide, what you said you use, is that a lot of people say it is pretty "sterile" sounding. I do like it, but I don't know if it will be what the OP is looking for.

I don't know if it would really be necessary to have a multi setting to achieve a hillsong sound.. simple quarts and dotted eights should be able pull of their sound, as long as the delay pedal is a smooth sounding one.

If you like what John Mayer uses and the Hillsong sound, I would suggest trying the Deluxe Memory Boy by EHX. It is an analog delay, so it will definitely not sound sterile and it has tap tempo with subdivisions. It's $180.

johnray777 · 06-07-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by relient nelson

Only thing about the eventide, what you said you use, is that a lot of people say it is pretty "sterile" sounding. I do like it, but I don't know if it will be what the OP is looking for.

I don't know if it would really be necessary to have a multi setting to achieve a hillsong sound.. simple quarts and dotted eights should be able pull of their sound, as long as the delay pedal is a smooth sounding one.

If you like what John Mayer uses and the Hillsong sound, I would suggest trying the Deluxe Memory Boy by EHX. It is an analog delay, so it will definitely not sound sterile and it has tap tempo with subdivisions. It's $180.

DEF recommend the Deluxe Memory Boy. Personally, I've never played one, but I've seen side by side comparisons with the Deluxe Memory Man, and they sound pretty similar. And it has tap built right in, and you can plug an expression pedal into the pedal and use i think chorus or vibrato. You get the 3-in-one deal

**akaukal** · 06-07-2010, 01:36 PM

Owning the Deluxe Memory Boy, I would definitely recommend it. Very warm repeats, a tad dark, but there's a lo-cut mode that can remedy that. It has nothing on the DMM as far as I'm concerned, but it sounds pretty darn good. I use it quite a lot at church for hillsong type stuff. IT has plenty of delay time on tap as well.

Other delays I would suggest you try are the Boss DD-5 or DD-7.

**tenwatt** · 06-07-2010, 02:35 PM

I don't know what you mean by "sterile" but the Timefactor the best delay(s) I've ever used. Since you can use two delays at once it's as if you are buying two delay pedals in one box. Being able to run it in stereo, running an expression pedal, and having a 1/4 note and a dotted 1/8 (or whatever combo you might want) is a lot of mojo out of one box.

relient nelson · 06-07-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tenwatt

I don't know what you mean by "sterile" but the Timefactor the best delay(s) I've ever used. Since you can use two delays at once it's as if you are buying two delay pedals in one box. Being able to run it in stereo, running an expression pedal, and having a 1/4 note and a dotted 1/8 (or whatever combo you might want) is a lot of mojo out of one box.

I wouldn't call that mojo, maybe a lot of features...

What I mean by sterile is that the pedal, while it does pack a ton of sick features, is still somewhat digital sounding. Which is fine if you want a straightforward digital delay sound. But the timefactor doesn't allow for a whole lot of changing to the actual sound of the delay. It's analog and tape delay emulation is very.... conservative. It doesn't seem to allow for any really funky or dirty sounding delay. It's modulation settings are also rather limited, in my opinion. Which isn't a big deal to some, but is to others (myself obviously included). Anyways, just an opinion.

Also,JohnRay777, the chorus and vibrato on the Deluxe Memory Boy are not separate effects, but rather types of modulation that can be added on to the repeats of the delay.

**akaukal** · 06-07-2010, 04:30 PM

I've always found the Timefactor very sterile as well. What I mean by that is just bland sounding I guess. The repeats are VERY clear and pristine, which some people obviously like, it's just not my thing personally. I don't like the tape or analog emulations either, as there are plenty of other pedals that do that much better. The dual delay thing is definitely cool, but I have two delays that I run together that cost me less than the Timefactor.

And honestly, I can't stand screens. I just like knobs and LEDs.

relient nelson · 06-07-2010, 04:34 PM

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And honestly, I can't stand screens. I just like knobs and LEDs.

I also like hamsters on treadmills.

**tenwatt** · 06-09-2010, 08:30 AM

Gotcha. I disagree but I understand what you're saying. The thing about the TF is that you can get pretty much whatever sound you want to get out of it by spending some time working with it. Out of the box there are some great sounds but the more time I spend creating my own presets the more I realize that this pedal is limitless. Spending a few minutes with it in a store isn't going to make you familiar with it at all.

relient nelson · 06-09-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tenwatt

Gotcha. I disagree but I understand what you're saying. The thing about the TF is that you can get pretty much whatever sound you want to get out of it by spending some time working with it. Out of the box there are some great sounds but the more time I spend creating my own presets the more I realize that this pedal is limitless. Spending a few minutes with it in a store isn't going to make you familiar with it at all.

I'm sure that it does take some time to figure it all out.

I borrowed one from a friend once and spent an extended amount of time with it. There is a lot there.

metropolis4 · 06-10-2010, 07:19 AM

Two questions for you to give better suggestions:

1) Do you need tap?

2) What kind of amp are you using? Do you plan to run the delay in front of a dirty amp, through an fx loop, or after overdrive pedals?

DropKick74 · 06-10-2010, 02:08 PM

I'd like to run it into an fx loop and tap would be a definite plus but is not entirely required.

relient nelson · 06-10-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DropKick74

I'd like to run it into an fx loop and tap would be a definite plus but is not entirely required.

If you're going to be playing Hillsong stuff... I would definitely recommend a tap tempo. IMHO, it is a must for playing almost any Hillsong written in the last five years.