World Cup '10

Ax · 06-16-2010, 06:38 PM

My problem with the timing is it's not displayed anywhere. I think it's great how time doesn't actually stop, but why make it a mystery? Why not let people know it's down to the wire so you have that extra drive to score... do something drastic to win while they can?

And another thing! What's up with some guy getting 18 fouls without ever being touched? How does that make sense?

Sorry if it seems like I'm ☺☺☺☺☺ing, I just don't understand it. I'm really confused.

**dogfood** · 06-16-2010, 06:46 PM

you get used to it, more fun when you dont know the final time.

i find the stop clock annoying.

**Skeeter** · 06-16-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ax

My problem with the timing is it's not displayed anywhere. I think it's great how time doesn't actually stop, but why make it a mystery? Why not let people know it's down to the wire so you have that extra drive to score... do something drastic to win while they can?

I'm not sure what you mean. Most TV broadcasts do display the added time and it's definitely displayed in the stadium

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And another thing! What's up with some guy getting 18 fouls without ever being touched? How does that make sense?

You'll have to explain this one as the refs have been quite good so far at not calling dives, with a couple exceptions (the red card and penalty shot for Uruguay against South Africa being one of them). The refs aren't perfect and some players dive. It's an unfortunate fact.

***Art*** · 06-16-2010, 07:45 PM

Yeah, I have seen the stoppage time at the top of the screen. It showed up as a +3 next to the time when I noticed it.

**adamwagg** · 06-16-2010, 07:47 PM

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You'll have to explain this one as the refs have been quite good so far at not calling dives, with a couple exceptions (the red card and penalty shot for Uruguay against South Africa being one of them). The refs aren't perfect and some players dive. It's an unfortunate fact.

So that was a dive? I haven't been able to see a replay of it yet.

**adamwagg** · 06-16-2010, 07:48 PM

Also with the stoppage time, it does at least mean the refs can give a bit of extra time for a goal scoring opportunity. And hey there aren't many goals so its worth it.

Ethan.Bassist. · 06-16-2010, 09:03 PM

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You'll have to explain this one as the refs have been quite good so far at not calling dives, with a couple exceptions (the red card and penalty shot for Uruguay against South Africa being one of them). The refs aren't perfect and some players dive. It's an unfortunate fact.

Wait so I'm confused now too. Looking at the replay, I'm pretty sure the ball wasn't anywhere near the player that got knocked down by the goalie. Are you saying that whole thing was legit? Or not?

Or is there a difference from the penalty they called (a dive apparently?) and what the goalie actually did?

corporate · 06-16-2010, 09:53 PM

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HOW DO YOU WATCH THIS SPORT?! IT'S ALWAYS TIED! What's the point of watching a sport where people are content with it ending in a draw?

It's only the first matches, so teams will rather take the point that try to push up for a win and maybe getting hit back in a counter attack. They're usually more cautious and defensive.

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North Korea was brilliant defensively. With this result against Brazil, they've shown they can compete against any team in the world. Fantastic result for them and a beautiful goal from Ji Yun Nam.

If Portugal and Cote d'Ivoire played like they did in their first game, NK could easily nick the results and go through. They played with heart, no diving theatrics- England could learn a thing or two.

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That was an incredible game of soccer/football. I saw from 56m onward, and it was intense the entire time. Spain played amazingly, but they just could not penetrate the Swiss defense, and, when they did, their shots missed by mere inches. Fantastic game. I'm hoping this doesn't affect their chances of making it farther by much.

I think they'll still go through, but might end up in second if Chile keeps playing well...which means they'll probably face Brazil in the round of 16. I don't think Spain played amazing, really. They reminded me of Arsenal: 10 players who live to play pretty triangles. Very much like the Barca-Inter game in the Champions League, they failed to break down the defense because they don't exploit the wings. And the few times they did, when Navas played wide through the right, they looked dangerous. But no, they just got desperate and lost composure.

I like how the pundits immediately bring up the anti-football argument whenever a "small" side pulls off an upset like this.

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You'll have to explain this one as the refs have been quite good so far at not calling dives, with a couple exceptions (the red card and penalty shot for Uruguay against South Africa being one of them). The refs aren't perfect and some players dive. It's an unfortunate fact.

No, that was a penalty. Suarez did exaggerated and sold it to the ref, but there was enough contact.

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Wait so I'm confused now too. Looking at the replay, I'm pretty sure the ball wasn't anywhere near the player that got knocked down by the goalie. Are you saying that whole thing was legit? Or not?

He was through on goal, the keeper obstructed him, he went down rather dramatically, but it was a penalty.

Supporting South Korea against Argentina tomorrow.

mulletman · 06-16-2010, 10:23 PM

That list of stuff was funny.....

If you're going to play for a tie, there's no point in taking the freaking field. That's just how I feel. You play to win the game.

YouTube - Herm Edwards- Greatest Coach Ever!

The flopping bothers me immensely. It bothers me when basketball players do it as well. I dunno. I have yet to see a player in the world cup actually attempt to stay on his feet after taking a little contact.

***Art*** · 06-16-2010, 11:13 PM

Ben, you lose all legitimacy when you post a link that says that Herm Edwards is the best coach ever.

**Skeeter** · 06-17-2010, 12:39 AM

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So that was a dive? I haven't been able to see a replay of it yet.

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Wait so I'm confused now too. Looking at the replay, I'm pretty sure the ball wasn't anywhere near the player that got knocked down by the goalie. Are you saying that whole thing was legit? Or not?

Or is there a difference from the penalty they called (a dive apparently?) and what the goalie actually did?

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No, that was a penalty. Suarez did exaggerated and sold it to the ref, but there was enough contact.

He was through on goal, the keeper obstructed him, he went down rather dramatically, but it was a penalty.

I disagree that there was enough contact. He got barely touched: if he had continued rather than flopping dramatically, he had a sure goal anyway. As a ref, I might still call the penalty shot, but there's no way I would give a red card to the goalie and I would probably book the forward for diving.

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If Portugal and Cote d'Ivoire played like they did in their first game, NK could easily nick the results and go through. They played with heart, no diving theatrics- England could learn a thing or two.

Exactly. North Korea could really surprise one of those teams. They're as sound as they come defensively but also have some offensive flair. Honestly, I wish the team wasn't from North Korea, as I love cheering for the underdog, but I know any success they experience will be used as propaganda for an oppressive regime.

**dogfood** · 06-17-2010, 03:48 AM

imagine North Korea verses South Korea Final. all major security for that.

**thesteve** · 06-17-2010, 09:32 AM

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imagine North Korea verses South Korea Final. all major security for that.

Why? According to the announcers, DPRK has very few, if any actual fans at the World Cup. The people cheering for them are paid actors from China.

**Skeeter** · 06-17-2010, 09:53 AM

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Why? According to the announcers, DPRK has very few, if any actual fans at the World Cup. The people cheering for them are paid actors from China.

Do you have a source for that? I had heard that the fans were from DPRK, but were kept under tight security.

**thesteve** · 06-17-2010, 10:06 AM

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Do you have a source for that? I had heard that the fans were from DPRK, but were kept under tight security.

The only source I have is Martin Tyler during the Brazil v. DPRK match. I probably wouldn't be able to find the exact quote.

Here's the story perpetuated in the Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_614510.html