twilight

sirk · 04-19-2010, 09:54 PM

okay just to put it out thare what do you think about it from a bible beliving person?. personally i think (and many others)its of satan.

**mtlmouth** · 04-19-2010, 09:55 PM

I read the books. I don't see how they're from Satan. Fun, mostly mindless entertainment.

Kentl · 04-19-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sirk

okay just to put it out thare what do you think about it from a bible beliving person?. personally i think (and many others)its of satan.

this = can of worms

how on earth do you think so?
they even wait till marrige to have sex, that seems verey chrisatin

also the bible never says anything about vampires so sorry but no

vampires have nothing to do with the bible manly becuse

bible = truth

vampires = fantsy

**MtlMom** · 04-19-2010, 10:00 PM

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okay just to put it out thare what do you think about it from a bible beliving person?. personally i think (and many others)its of satan.

Why do you think it's of Satan?

rock_show_host · 04-19-2010, 10:03 PM

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okay just to put it out thare what do you think about it from a bible beliving person?.

As a Bible-believing Christian, I think the Twilight books are melodramatic and overly fluffy pop literature, but still entertaining in a guilty pleasure kind of way. Mind you, I'm a Presbyterian.

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personally i think (and many others)its of satan.

Nope.

**thesteve** · 04-19-2010, 10:09 PM

If by "of Satan" you mean, "a bad excuse for literature", you might be on to something.

mulletman · 04-19-2010, 10:10 PM

Bad literature is punishable by damnation to hell, you know.

In any case, twilight is something that everyone experiences once a day. The end.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 04-19-2010, 10:24 PM

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okay just to put it out thare what do you think about it from a bible beliving person?. personally i think (and many others)its of satan.

One of my all time favorite books is Bram Stoker's Dracula. The theology in the book is intriguing and the concepts are fascinating in the tension between Catholicism and Protestantism.

It is a book about a vampire.

What makes you believe twilight is evil? I don't read such estrogen soaked books unless forced to at gun point, or if all my kids in youth group were, I grudgingly would to understand what they are reading. But they don't and for that I am eternally grateful.

rock_show_host · 04-19-2010, 10:37 PM

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One of my all time favorite books is Bram Stoker's Dracula.

Now that is one heck of a book.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 04-19-2010, 10:41 PM

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Now that is one heck of a book.

I was downright upset when I got to the end of it, because it was over. I love Van Helsing. AND HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT AWFUL CHEESEBALL MOVIE THAT TOOK HIS NAME! NOTHING

jthomas1600 · 04-20-2010, 06:21 AM

Funny this question should be posed. We didn't let our girls (10 and 12 when the movie came out) go see it....partly because of the vampire thing, but mostly because of the ga ga romance boy crazy thing we don't want our daughters doing. Anyway, before I came to work a few months ago I took my son to see Avatar, then when I got to the boat there were only about 3 movies in English onboard and one of them was Twilight so I watched it. Afterwords, I was kind of struck with the idea that maybe we (as conservatives....my wife and I) worry too much about the wrong things.

Here's my impression of the two movies.

Twilight: Yes there were vampires, but the blood, violence and vampire ritual sacrifices etc. were very minimal. The romance seemed actually pretty age appropriate and mild. There was very little heavy petting (if any) and making out. The boy treated the girl well and was respectful of her father.

Avatar: Notice how all the all the "land grabbing, environment destroying, native killers" fit the "white, conservative, Judea/christian" stereo type? The movie clearly communicated that those are bad people. I also did not care for the spiritual/religious connotations in the movie.

Please don't flame me for my opinions about Avatar. I'm not saying it's of the devil. I'm just saying it can be a challenge sometimes to identify which things are bigger concerns from a parental stand point.

**slap_j** · 04-20-2010, 09:03 AM

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Notice how all the all the "land grabbing, environment destroying, native killers" fit the "white, conservative, Judea/christian" stereo type?

I think that's fair though. In modern times hasn't it been true that most of the colonialism was on the part of white, Judeo-Christian types?

As for Twilight, I think the character of Bella is a moron of some sort. But on the whole it was too soporific for me to think much about.

**Skeeter** · 04-20-2010, 09:48 AM

Personally, I think Twilight isn't morally bad, but it's certainly bad in terms of quality. I wouldn't let my kids read it (if I had kids) for two reasons: the potentially damaging ideas about relationships and the terrible quality of the prose. The fact it's about vampires wouldn't even enter into it. Besides, Twilight vampires are poor excuses for vampires. "Real" vampires don't sparkle.

jthomas1600 · 04-20-2010, 09:51 AM

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I think that's fair though. In modern times hasn't it been true that most of the colonialism was on the part of white, Judeo-Christian types?

As for Twilight, I think the character of Bella is a moron of some sort. But on the whole it was too soporific for me to think much about.

I don't know that that's entirely true. I don't know one way or the other. I know it's popular to accept it as true. My point, or my feeling on the matter, is that there's no reason to continue to vilify the "white, conservative, judeo/christian" type for something that us living white, conservative... had nothing to do with. It's good to recognize mistakes of the past, but my kids do not need to feel guilty about it. And certainly we don't need create bad feelings against a group of people based on what their ancestors did.

But again, my point was not to say Avatar was terrible, just to say that some times the things that should concern you aren't always easily apparent. And of course each parent and each individual will decide for themselves what to be concerned about and what is a non issue.

**slap_j** · 04-20-2010, 10:30 AM

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I don't know that that's entirely true. I don't know one way or the other. I know it's popular to accept it as true.

There's the Portuguese Empire, the Spanish Empire, British Empire, French Colonial Empire, Dutch Empire, Swedish colonies, Danish Colonial Empire, German Colonial Empire, Belgian Colonial Empire, and with the annexation of Puerto Rico, the Philippines (now independent) and Guam some would say the American Empire.

I can see where the archetype comes from.

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It's good to recognize mistakes of the past, but my kids do not need to feel guilty about it. And certainly we don't need create bad feelings against a group of people based on what their ancestors did.

I agree, though I'm not sure that's what is going on. But as you say, everyone has to use their own discretion. Especially when they're responsible for someone else.