[JerryLove]

Originally Posted by Bryan

are all these people part of group plans? or do they buy their insurance individually direct from the insurers? basically, how do they get their insurance?

Exactly. If your insurance is part of group plan that your employer GM offers you: you won't get dropped.

If you have tried to get private or small group insurance; what will happen is that the plan will have its rates triple (for everyone) and there will be a new plan you don't qualify for that the healthy people move to.

And yes, I can think of several specific examples.

[JerryLove]

Originally Posted by MisterDominator

I didn't miss your point, I ignored it because I don't personally like the answer. if you invent it, it is yours to do whatever you want with. the government should have no right whatsoever to take it from you or tell you what you should or should not do with it. I don't like the answer because I don't like the theory that the government can tell you what you should or must do with your pill.

What's interesting here is that you are working from an entirely modern re-interpretation of patent that has been placed in the public mind by Disney, the recording industry, and the like.

Copyright and patent have been in law for hundreds of years... before the founding of the US, and are enshrined in the constitution; and in those hundreds of years they have never given "ownership" of an idea or process or words strung together to anyone but the public.

You own the physical pill you made: but you don't own an identical pill someone else makes.

*For the purpose of the public good* the law grants patents and copyrights. The constitution not only spells out that it does but why. The *entire point* of a patent is to encourage new innovation, and the entire point of encouraging new innovation is to serve the public.

So if allowing a patent to hold is obviously to the public's detrement: it's a corruption of the law.

[tlj009]

are all these people part of group plans? or do they buy their insurance individually direct from the insurers? basically, how do they get their insurance?

I suspect that they are part of group plans through their work. Some I know, some I don't.