[Jeffrey]

So: who likes, who hates it? I like it, overall. I enjoyed Lillard's performance (dude played Shaggy in the live action Scooby movies).

A classic scene, though a warning for language.

It's heavy-handed at times, but apparently a good look at the Salt Lake City punk movement (which, of course, feels like a second-hand version of the oft-mythologized and equally disappointing LA and NY scenes).

This scene embodies the directing that I really like in this film, the blend of quick cuts in the middle of a character's rants, the slow-downs: Language warning, again.

I think the posing of the characters was intentional. In the scene above, a wannabe punk and group of wannabe mods threaten to fight, then the punk addresses the friendlier mod and mentions one of their moms driving them to soccer practice.

This, I always felt, showed that the film was examining how suburban kids rebel. Of course it looks ridiculous from the outside (we all look ridiculous from the outside; in all honesty, there are no cool people, not even Tom Waits), but it's personal myth-making that allows one to feel better than others.

It's a touching film, overall.

[earlessdog]

Seems funny that I just had a thread about this, then deleted it, PMed you about it, then you don't reply and you go ahead and make it again. Don't know what that means, I have nothing against it, just seems funny.


Then I'll say what I said before. The film is one of the worst I've seen, I hated the acting, the script, the directing, and the story. Maybe I just don't appreciate "art" when it comes to movies, but that's what I honestly think of it.

I never really looked at the movie as intentionally showing the characters as posers, and thats what really made me despise this movie because I just saw all these lame characters ☺☺☺☺☺ing about how they hate posers and how they are not posers when they are so obviously "posers".
I know a bit about punk and this just didn't seem to portray "it" (as diverse the scene is and how many different sub cultures there are, I realize you can't portray punk in general in a film like this).

But when you say your point about suburban kids rebelling, the terrible portrayal of punk makes a lot more sense. To be honest, I wasn't really paying much attention to it by the end because of how uninterested I was about it maybe that's why I missed some of the major points of the movie.

I still thought the movie was awful and still would never recommend it.

[Micahb]

Haven't seen it in a long time, but I loved it.
Whether or not it shows an accurate representation on the 'punk' scene, which I have no idea, I still found it to be very entertaining.

[Tim Possible]

Love this movie. I need to see it again sometime.

[Sean]

I only saw it once, and that was like 8 years ago, but I don't recall caring too much for it.

[Big_al]

I liked it enough. Heroin bob and matthew lillard reminded me of high school friends. Lillard's rant in the mall reminded me a lot of what some people think in the hardcore scene today.

[Than]

I haven't seen it in a while, but I loved this movie when it was shown to me a few years ago. I actually went out and bought it after that...I'll have to watch this again.