08-31-2010, 12:17 PM
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#46 | | Heaven isn't too far away
Joined: Dec 2004 Location: The First State Posts: 6,197
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Originally Posted by thesteve I agree that it's irky, but I don't know that it's really reducing worship down to a favoritism contest. All I've really seen is members saying, "this is the guy that I like and identify with the most."
If the whole thread was about how Chris Tomlin is a superior Christian to Matt Redman because of reasons X, Y and Z, I would agree with the whole idea of the thread being unbiblical, but as it stands I don't really see anything bad happening. | The original question needs to be rephrased to "Who is your favorite worship leader?".
That's it. Simple. Straight forward.
If the original question had been asked back when that "Healer" song was first written and somewhat popular, I'm sure that dude would have gotten some votes on his alleged "Worshipers Heart". |
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08-31-2010, 12:33 PM
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#47 | | Be happy
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: Louisiana Posts: 19,912
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Originally Posted by thesteve All I've really seen is members saying, "this is the guy that I like and identify with the most." | Quote:
Originally Posted by WARRIOR2 I still favor the ministry of Robin Mark. | Any questions?
__________________ Some things are meant together, some things are better apart
Some things are easy, when other times they are hard
But that doesn’t mean what’s hard isn’t what’s meant to be
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08-31-2010, 12:35 PM
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#48 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
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Originally Posted by gtrdave If the original question had been asked back when that "Healer" song was first written and somewhat popular, I'm sure that dude would have gotten some votes on his alleged "Worshipers Heart".  | Hahaha....that guy is one of the reasons (along with finding their music to be extra boring) I've never been able to get into Planetshakers. Quote:
Originally Posted by bobthecockroach Any questions? | I favor hamburgers over hotdogs. I guess I'm still missing your point. |
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08-31-2010, 12:36 PM
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#49 | | Be happy
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: Louisiana Posts: 19,912
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Originally Posted by thesteve Hahaha....that guy is one of the reasons (along with finding their music to be extra boring) I've never been able to get into Planetshakers. | The name "Planetshakers" wasn't enough of a reason?
__________________ Some things are meant together, some things are better apart
Some things are easy, when other times they are hard
But that doesn’t mean what’s hard isn’t what’s meant to be
- Al Lewis |
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08-31-2010, 12:39 PM
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#50 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
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Originally Posted by bobthecockroach The name "Planetshakers" wasn't enough of a reason?  | It's a weird name, but not any worse than "Hillsong", "Vineyard", "Jesus Culture" or any of the other popular worship church movements going on IMO. |
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08-31-2010, 01:06 PM
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#51 | | Be happy
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: Louisiana Posts: 19,912
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Originally Posted by thesteve I favor hamburgers over hotdogs. I guess I'm still missing your point. | Right, but God never set himself up as the judge of bunned meats, and Jesus never admonished anyone for being concerned with which is best.
__________________ Some things are meant together, some things are better apart
Some things are easy, when other times they are hard
But that doesn’t mean what’s hard isn’t what’s meant to be
- Al Lewis |
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08-31-2010, 01:16 PM
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#52 | | Algebraic!
Joined: Apr 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24,454
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Originally Posted by bobthecockroach Right, but God never set himself up as the judge of bunned meats, and Jesus never admonished anyone for being concerned with which is best. | Right. I think we're just reading the posts differently. When I read a person write, "I favor Robin Mark". I read it as, "I like what Robin Mark is doing with their ministry and identify with it", not "Robin Mark is the holiest of the worship leaders".
Maybe this is something for another thread, but isn't this how we often select the churches we end up attending? When we are searching for a church and choose one church to be our home church over others, aren't we favoring that church over others? |
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08-31-2010, 04:12 PM
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#53 | | His Way Always
Joined: Aug 2010 Location: Bremerton, Washington Posts: 67
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Originally Posted by thesteve Right. I think we're just reading the posts differently. When I read a person write, "I favor Robin Mark". I read it as, "I like what Robin Mark is doing with their ministry and identify with it", not "Robin Mark is the holiest of the worship leaders".
Maybe this is something for another thread, but isn't this how we often select the churches we end up attending? When we are searching for a church and choose one church to be our home church over others, aren't we favoring that church over others? | thesteve,
you are right when you intrepreted what I said when I said "i favor Robin Mark". I do like what their ministry is doing.I should have been more clear in one thing. I don't know what his spiritual life is really like, so how can I
say anything else than "I like the music Robin Mark does". |
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08-31-2010, 04:35 PM
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#54 | | Now with Banstick™ Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Nashville Posts: 8,143
| The problem is with the initial question "which worship leader best represents a worshiper's heart". That's a whole different question than who is your favorite worship leader. As long as the discussion stays towards the latter (which it has) and away from the initial question, I think it's fine. |
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08-31-2010, 05:55 PM
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#55 | | RIP CITY.
Joined: Jul 2002 Location: Far from you, I hope. Posts: 10,224
| I think it depends totally on the motivations of those involved.
If their motivations were to either argue for their own greatness or to place someone on a pedestal of holiness to be revered and wondered at, then there's a problem.
If it's to point out people who are doing things well for the edification of people trying to do the same things well, it seems fine to me.
That last comment was in reference to BobTheCockroach's post in response to mine. CGR is being retarded and not letting me use the quote function.
Last edited by thesteve; 08-31-2010 at 06:07 PM.
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