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Unread 02-22-2010, 01:04 PM   #1
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Iíve heard that if you where to play the same guitar with the same settings as another gutsiest, it will still sound deferent, is this true?


And is so why the heck is it?

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Unread 02-22-2010, 01:08 PM   #2
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Iíve heard that if you where to play the same guitar with the same settings as another gutsiest, it will still sound deferent, is this true?


And is so why the heck is it?
Gutsiest? I like that word, it's a cool word, and I think I'll start using that, seriously. Thanks.

But I'm pretty sure you mean guitarist.

And yes, it often sounds different. Every guitarist (except 12 year old metalheads... who always sound the same... lol) tends to have his/her own character that they add that just comes out in the playing. I think.
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight.
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Unread 02-22-2010, 01:09 PM   #3
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Iíve heard that if you where to play the same guitar with the same settings as another gutsiest, it will still sound deferent, is this true?


And is so why the heck is it?
Your technique has a lot to do with the sound. Your pick attack, string vibrato, and other mechanics make a big difference in what you hear, even if all the hardware and settings are the same.
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Unread 02-22-2010, 01:17 PM   #4
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Gutsiest? I like that word, it's a cool word, and I think I'll start using that, seriously. Thanks.

But I'm pretty sure you mean guitarist.

And yes, it often sounds different. Every guitarist (except 12 year old metalheads... who always sound the same... lol) tends to have his/her own character that they add that just comes out in the playing. I think.
so is "your sound" pre set then?
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Unread 02-22-2010, 01:20 PM   #5
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Your technique has a lot to do with the sound. Your pick attack, string vibrato, and other mechanics make a big difference in what you hear, even if all the hardware and settings are the same.
We have a winner. You can vary your pick attack and such and change genre. I can without touching my amp or guitar controls, play punk, metal, or p&W by adjusting pick attack and how I am hitting the string.

Since you are using your hands, a variance in pressure, the way you angle your pick, everything effects your sound. Where you hit the strings, whether close to the bridge or closer to the neck effects tone as well.
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your unique sound is really something that is developed more than learned. you learn bits that are incorporated into your sound but YOU are what determines which bits get used when. thats what makes it YOUR sound.
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> The more gear I play, the more I realize that I always sound like me.

Yeah, me, too. But in my case, that's sorta sad.

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The more gear I play, the more I realize that I always sound like me.
Exactly. I've used lots of different guitars in my time as a musician. Lots of amps too. At some point or another I've had a decked out Epi LP junior, a Gibson Les Paul, a ratrod Telecaster, an Epiphone Dot. 4 different amps, lots of pedals have come and gone. I've gotten better obviously but there is a distinct constant in my playing.

It's like if you listen to Page or Hendrix, Edge, John Mayer, Lincoln Brewster, you can tell who it is the second they start playing.
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight.

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Exactly. I've used lots of different guitars in my time as a musicians. Lots of amps too. At some point or another I've had a decked out Epi LP junior, a Gibson Les Paul, a ratrod Telecaster, an Epiphone Dot. 4 different amps, lots of pedals have come and gone. I've gotten better obviously but there is a distinct constant in my playing.

It's like if you listen to Page or Hendrix, Edge, John Mayer, Lincoln Brewster, you can tell who it is the second they start playing.
Yeah. Whats funny is I now know that some gear does not go well with me.

Strats can sound amazing. I sound like crap with one. Something about them disagrees with me and no matter how many times I find one that plays beautifully, that trem is going to sound awful with my playing, no matter what. (I still want to try a good hardtail to see if I sound okay on those.

I own a lot of guitars and I will confess some of them sound drastically different. (My LP studio with qtuners and a trem sounds rather drastically different from my teles, sounds different than my guild s50, (Which essentially nails that lo-fi 60's sound oh so well))

Some of my guitars are rather distinguishable by tone, and you can tell my amps apart, but I will still sound like myself on any of them even if the fundamental timbre is not all that similar.
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The more gear I play, the more I realize that I always sound like me.
Yeah, I listen to recordings of me three years ago and even though I wasn't so good and my sound was caked with effects (I used to use them as a sort of talent compensator), I can still tell it's me.
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Iíve heard that if you where to play the same guitar with the same settings as another gutsiest, it will still sound deferent, is this true?


And is so why the heck is it?
Apart from the other mentioned variables, the room, amount of people in it, and the weather can still be an influence.

Heck, your very own mass is effecting the sound at very minute level.
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight.
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight.


I would sig this but I'd probably get in trouble. Good one.
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The key to great tone is really found in the kind of hand soap that you use.
For years I used a typical off-the-shelf bar-type soap and I had no idea that, even though I rinsed properly and thoroughly after every cleansing, there was still a soap scum residue on my hands and fingers.
This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
The difference in my guitar's sound is so wickedly improved that I no longer feel the need to buy a new amp or pedals or even strings...EVER!
So, it's my belief that tone is in the soap.
Thank you and goodnight.
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