Work Truck / Farm Truck

mattslope · 02-23-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stik

I can tell you from experience that jeeps do not weigh less than 3000 lbs. but you could probably build a sammi with a VW TDI and keep it under 3k. And about the 42s.... I would say its more about suspesion design than tire size. I hate the GM 2.8L. the 4.0 is a beast except the piston rings in mine went out at 160k. Also, Jeeps are notoriously nose heavy to begin with. And to believe i was actually considering putting a 3.9L 4 banger cummins in mine.... still might. And I do believe gassers sound pissed off because Audi and Peugeot Diesels have been spanking them at LeMans.

This one would be close with an SR20DET in place of the 4.6 I6:

(The above image is a link to the build thread)

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I am actually considering getting rid of my truck and getting a B5 S4. While it doesnt quite rev over 7k i would still consider it a real engine. I have become torque and turbo obsessed so its either that or a TDI.

A sequential turbo setup would definitely please a diesel fan, the torque seems to last forever.

**Fandrew** · 02-23-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by walkwjc

Diesels hold value better than gas engines, so a gas engine will be less expensive for the same year/make/model.

The only difference between a F-250 and F-350 would be one leaf spring in the rear end and some trailer tongue wt capacity. All other things are equal. Now the difference between that and an F-150 are pretty great.

I have virtually no use for the dually F-350. Ideally, I want a newer F250 for myself, since I do a fair bit of construction projects, hauling scaffolding and lumber. My F-150 struggles with trailers, it's a very sluggish ride. Dad's F-250 doesn't give me any problems. As for the offroad part, I'm tired of getting stuck in wet grass and pea gravel. It's very embarrassing to have to borrow a tractor from somebody at one in the morning.

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Originally Posted by stik

Yeah, i checked your area and it does seem to be that way. I despise throttle body injection (tbi) so stay away from that. How much weight you expect to be hauling and how far you haul should be considered as you could just go for a low geared setup.

I won't be hauling very far. The weight is entirely variable. At most, currently, a pallet of fertilizer, which I can't do in my F150.

walkwjc · 02-23-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JayCarrFan

I have virtually no use for the dually F-350. Ideally, I want a newer F250 for myself, since I do a fair bit of construction projects, hauling scaffolding and lumber. My F-150 struggles with trailers, it's a very sluggish ride. Dad's F-250 doesn't give me any problems. As for the offroad part, I'm tired of getting stuck in wet grass and pea gravel. It's very embarrassing to have to borrow a tractor from somebody at one in the morning.

Just for the record, I was not referring to the dually. My point is that there is virtually no difference between the F-250 and F-350, aside from one leaf in the rear springs, so a little rougher ride and 800 lbs capacity. So, if you are looking at fords, then widen your search to both the F-250 and the F-350 because in my experience the F-250 is a more popular model in 4x4 and they run a little higher in the resale market than do F-350s. So you can get just a tad more truck for less cash.

**Fandrew** · 02-26-2010, 09:58 AM

I can't find any 4WD F350sof reasonable price. It's looking more and more like I will be looking for an late 80s-early 90s Ford F250. They seem to be what I would want.

So, what exactly should I look for in that range of F250s? My dad had a '97 with the 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel, and it was a beast...

mattslope · 02-26-2010, 10:13 AM

If you can find a rig like your Dad's, go for it. I'm a fan of the 351W, but only because it's so easy to work on, has a lot of torque, and the resale is pretty low. Remember, these rigs all have TTB front suspensions, so while they'll be vastly more comfortable while towing and driving around town, if you want to lift the rig you'll probably want a solid axle. Not a concern, though, if you're just hauling stuff and towing.

mulletman · 02-26-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stik

And I do believe gassers sound pissed off because Audi and Peugeot Diesels have been spanking them at LeMans.

Right.... but we all know why that's actually happening...

~~Over-compensating displacement advantage regulations... as well as forced induction...~~

**Fandrew** · 02-26-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mattslope

If you can find a rig like your Dad's, go for it. I'm a fan of the 351W, but only because it's so easy to work on, has a lot of torque, and the resale is pretty low. Remember, these rigs all have TTB front suspensions, so while they'll be vastly more comfortable while towing and driving around town, if you want to lift the rig you'll probably want a solid axle. Not a concern, though, if you're just hauling stuff and towing.

The 4x4 is more for er... problems, I'm not planning to go mudding or something. I wish he still had that truck. It was a work truck, and they replaced it with a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500

Also, it wasn't a 4x4.

mulletman · 02-26-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mattslope

Feel free to hate all you want. My truck wasn't delivered by a car.

Indeed. But now you're discussing cargo-haulers. Let's bring a UPS -47 into the discussion if we're going to talk about that now. It hauls more, goes faster, is more fuel efficient, makes more power, has longer range, has better longevity....

Oh, that would just be off-topic.

mattslope · 02-26-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Mullet

Indeed. But now you're discussing cargo-haulers. Let's bring a UPS -47 into the discussion if we're going to talk about that now. It hauls more, goes faster, is more fuel efficient, makes more power, has longer range, has better longevity....

Oh, that would just be off-topic.

Good call.

stik · 03-04-2010, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mattslope

A sequential turbo setup would definitely please a diesel fan, the torque seems to last forever.

I have considered a sequential setup but its more of a practicality thing thats nudging me in the direction of a car. Since moving from Montana i dont use my truck for the same things as i used to. It's great on fuel and i dont mind driving it until i have to park somewhere. Plus the freeway chatter is very annoying. But then again, whats keeping me from doing a four link and air-bags?

Hehe, that is a sweet build. What is your wheelbase, and is that a 9 inch rear end i see? what are you running up front? Also, are you using Ballistic Fab coilovers? I was refering to a streetable rig in my post. Although you might catch me taking that for a spin.

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Mullet

Right.... but we all know why that's actually happening...

~~Over-compensating displacement advantage regulations... as well as forced induction...~~

Engine size is the same
you know what they say, "horsepower sells cars, torque wins races".