[The wirerat]

Originally Posted by Michael_rev

still a little weary becuase of this though;

Ingredients: (sources are manufacturers statements.)
FluMist®: (MedImmune) Live attenuated cold adapted virus*, allantoic fluid (egg white), sucrose, potassium phosphate, and monosodium glutamate. Source FluMist Facts and Comparisons at Drugs.com.

FLUARIXTM: (GlaxoSmithKline) Chicken embryos, virus*, sucrose, sodium deoxycholate, formaldehyde, sodium phosphate, sodium chloride, octoxynol-10, Alpha-tocopheryl hydrogen succinate, and polysorbate 80, trace thimerosal (<1.25 mcg mercury per dose). Each dose may contain residual amounts of hydrocortisone, gentamicin sulfate, ovalbumin, formaldehyde and sodium deoxycholate.

Fluzone®: (Aventis-Pasteur) Chicken embryos, virus*, formaldehyde, sucrose, octoxinol-9, sodium phosphate, sodium chloride, Gelatin, thimerosal in the 5mL vials (25 ug mercury/dose), no thimerosal in prefilled syringes.

* See manufacturers Package inserts for details. The links above are to the package inserts.

FLU Vaccine Ingredients depend upon the manufacturer
FluVirin, FluShield, FluZone, FluMist, Etc, Etc.

All are made using egg or chicken protein
Influenza viruses (most! are inactivated)
Neomycin, polymyxin, gentamycin - antibiotics
Thimerosal [mercury] - a harmful preservative
Betapropiolactone - a disinfectant
Nonoxynol - used to kill or stop growth of STDs
Octoxinol 9 - a ☺☺☺☺☺☺l spermicide
Formaldehyde - embalming fluid used to kill viruses

Ingredient and associated risk list for the Fluzone vaccine:

Chick Embryo - this can be problematic for those allergic to eggs or egg products

Formaldehyde - (Embalming Fluid) Formaldehyde has been classified as a human carcinogen (cancer-causing substance) by the International Agency for Research on Cancer and as a probable human carcinogen by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency). Research studies of workers exposed to formaldehyde have suggested an association between formaldehyde exposure and cancers of the nasal sinuses, nasopharynx, and brain, and possibly leukemia

Octoxinol-9 - This is a spermacide (kills sperm) Chills; confusion; dizziness; fever; lightheadedness; muscle aches; sunburn-like skin rash that is followed by peeling of the skin

Triton X-100 - Harmful if swallowed. Causes severe eye irritation. May be harmful if inhaled or in contact with skin. Toxicology not fully investigated. The product may contain traces of ethylene oxide or dioxane, which are probable human carcinogens.

Gelatin- Made from the boiled bones, skins and tendons of animals.

Thimerisol (mercury derivative) - Several cases of acute mercury poisoning from thimerosal-containing products were found in the medical literature with total doses of thimerosal ranging from approximately 3 mg/kg (Your vaccine contains 25 ug per 5mL dose) to several hundred mg/kg These studies reported local necrosis, acute hemolysis, disseminated intravascular coagulation, acute renal tubular necrosis, and central nervous system injury including obtundation, coma, and death

Sodium Phosphate - Phosphates are slowly and incompletely absorbed when ingested, and seldom result in systemic effects. Such effects, however, have occurred Symptoms may include vomiting, lethargy, diarrhea, blood chemistry effects, heart disturbances and central nervous system effects. The toxicity of phosphates is because of their ability to sequester calcium. Irritant due to its acidic nature. May cause inflammation and pain on prolonged contact, especially with moist skin. May sequester calcium and cause calcium phosphate deposits in the kidneys.

Sodium Chloride(Salt) - Very large doses can cause vomiting, diarrhea, and prostration. Dehydration and congestion occur in most internal organs. Hypertonic salt solutions can produce violent inflammatory reactions in the gastrointestinal tract. May irritate damaged skin; absorption can occur with effects similar to those via ingestion.

In light of the information above, this short video on vaccines really hits home: [Requires Windows Media Player]
Royal Canadian Air Farce Video Player

The problem with you quoting all these ingredients and side effects is that while the side effects are all true, most of the ones you listed require HIGH concentrates to cause problems.
When you get a vaccine, its not a HUGE amount of each ingredient. Its a carefully measured and tested amount of each ingredient added together to create the effect that is needed.
Years go into the research on these vaccines dude. A bald guy in his mom's basement doesn't create them overnight.

When I was a child, my mom would take us to go get vaccinated every year until my sister's first year she was able to get the shots. Something in one of the vaccines reacted in her system and my sister had a massive allergic reaction and was rushed to the ER. So, my mother got a little paranoid and started refusing to vaccinate the rest of us kids. We would get the yearly flu, and somehow managed to avoid the chicken pox and measles and mumps and stuff, but it wasn't until my two younger brothers and my sister received mild cases of the swine flu that it changed. My mom started researching (something you need to do, and I cover this below) and discovered that the ingredients that had reacted with my sister were no longer included in the vaccines our doctor recommended my siblings get. So now my siblings get vaccinated. My point is, just because some people have adverse reactions to one vaccine does NOT mean nobody should get it.

Some of the statements you've made in here are somewhat true. There are vaccinations the US Government does require certain people to get. Even then the regs are a little loose on it. For example. I am a volunteer firefighter/EMT-B. When I joined my department, the county government sent me a letter strongly urging me to participate in their Hepatitis B vaccine program. Why? Because as am EMT I come into contact with blood and bodily fluids that could be infected on a daily basis. I chose to participate in the program. The US Military also has several vaccines that they issue their troops when they go on deployment. Thats really the only program I know of that FORCES you to get vaccinated.

I guess my point in saying all this, if you dig deep enough (or go to the right webpages) on any issue, you can find SOMETHING bad about it. Anything that I have seen you post on here has been like that. You dig until you find something that seems to be conspiracy based and without any further research, copy and paste in here to promote "discussion."
My advice? When you come across a topic that you feel is relevant and worthy of discussion, post YOUR thoughts, YOUR words, and then some links to material to back it up. Research your topic. Otherwise you come across sounding like an uninformed conspiracy theorist. Thats my advice, take it or leave it

[JerryLove]

Originally Posted by Alton Dong

Why are you posting comedy routines from Canadian comedy shows?

Are we having a serious discussion anymore?

Let's not forget that the shots contain dihydrogen monoxide: Facts About Dihydrogen Monoxide

[Michael_rev]

Originally Posted by JerryLove

Let's not forget that the shots contain dihydrogen monoxide: Facts About Dihydrogen Monoxide

hahaha. Thats H20 :P

I get your guys point now, although i do feel ive been duped i still want to seek the thermisol freevaccines

[The wirerat]

Originally Posted by Michael_rev

hahaha. Thats H20 :P

I get your guys point now, although i do feel ive been duped i still want to seek the thermisol freevaccines

Hey its a free country, go for whatever vaccine you want. Just next time remember to research something before you post it.