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Old 01-13-2010, 03:00 PM   #16
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I'm simply pointing out that I don't have the money for anything right now since I'm paying for school and don't have a job. :P
650 is what you are suggesting you could spring. Thats enough for a killer setup. One that won't be a toy.

A Peavey Ultra Head or combo would run you 300 probably, maybe less.

Throw in a good 2x12 at 300, and you are $50 to the good with a pro level setup instead of a toy.

Yamaha T50's and T100's go for around $500, and thats a killer amp that is an absolute monster.

I would try to fix your input, but if you replace the amp, go with a good amp. Good amp's also go up in value over time.

There are a whole host of ridiculously good Peavey tube amps for Metal that run around $200-$300.

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Old 01-13-2010, 04:29 PM   #17
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But why would I get a 2x12 cab with a head? That's just pointless. Again, if I get a head I'm getting a 4x12. And the 4x12 would come before the head, because if I get a cab I can use my amp as the head while I save up for an actual head. I'm quite used to running ghetto-rigged setups, because if you do it right, it actually works pretty good.
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But why would I get a 2x12 cab with a head? That's just pointless. Again, if I get a head I'm getting a 4x12. And the 4x12 would come before the head, because if I get a cab I can use my amp as the head while I save up for an actual head. I'm quite used to running ghetto-rigged setups, because if you do it right, it actually works pretty good.
FWIW, you could score a 4x12 with a quality head for $650, too.
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But why would I get a 2x12 cab with a head? That's just pointless. Again, if I get a head I'm getting a 4x12. And the 4x12 would come before the head, because if I get a cab I can use my amp as the head while I save up for an actual head. I'm quite used to running ghetto-rigged setups, because if you do it right, it actually works pretty good.
If you want to lug around a 4x12 speaker cabinet, go right ahead. I did it for years, and its really aggravating. If you're playing shows, a 2x12 is going to be plenty loud enough to mic'ed or be heard over a band in a situation where you aren't mic'ed. If you're playing at home, you're not really going to be able to get the amp loud enough to fully take advantage of four speakers anyway without it being too loud.
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But why would I get a 2x12 cab with a head? That's just pointless. Again, if I get a head I'm getting a 4x12. And the 4x12 would come before the head, because if I get a cab I can use my amp as the head while I save up for an actual head. I'm quite used to running ghetto-rigged setups, because if you do it right, it actually works pretty good.
why is that pointless? 4x12s are overkill most places, (Unless you are playing an arena without a sound system)and I have priced2x12s more out recently. 4x12s really are just heavier to carry than a 2x12. And have twice as many speakers so if you want to upgrade those, it costs twice as much Thats all. I am looking at 2x12s currently deciding what I want for my high gain head. 120 Watt power handling, 200 watt, or 150. Of course all of this is deciding which speakers would sound best with my rig.

The reason to go with a head/cab setup would be ease of getting the head used and not paying a fortune in shipping. Then find a good cabinet locally or get an avatar or lopoline cab.

All are quite a bit more affordable and infinitely better than the Peavey Vyper.

The plus side with this is if you decide to switch up your sound, the amps I am suggesting hold value. Vypers don't. Throw it on ebay, maybe make a profit, maybe lose $5, and try another head.

Another thing is there is no point in ghetto rigging something when you can do it right and cheaper.


Now I own a few really good amps and have owned dozens and can work on mine.

But a good 2x12 is much kinder to you than a 4x12, and can sound every bit as big and loud.
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Hmm it's something to consider, I guess. We have plenty of cabs right now though. We're trying to make the most use of what we have. We got two Yamaha 2x15 cabs, (I think they're either 2x12 or 2x15 but they sound much like 2x15's) and since our rhythm guitarist has his own halfstack, myself and our secondary lead guitarist are just going to ghetto rig our amps into the cabs for now, until our band fund grows more. Right now we depleted it with the purchase of a new pearl drum set that we got for a great price, but we still need the cymbals and that's another $319 for the set of 4.
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Hmm it's something to consider, I guess. We have plenty of cabs right now though. We're trying to make the most use of what we have. We got two Yamaha 2x15 cabs, (I think they're either 2x12 or 2x15 but they sound much like 2x15's) and since our rhythm guitarist has his own halfstack, myself and our secondary lead guitarist are just going to ghetto rig our amps into the cabs for now, until our band fund grows more. Right now we depleted it with the purchase of a new pearl drum set that we got for a great price, but we still need the cymbals and that's another $319 for the set of 4.
Then Why not just get a head?
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Because I don't have the money.
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Because I don't have the money.
I was meaning instead of a Peavey Vyper if things don't work out.
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Oh, lol. Well, I might look into it. But, being honest, the brands you're mentioning, I've never played. I've been using Peavy's and Mesa's and Vader cabs and Crates since I started playing, and they've been generally really good to me, and I'm quite used to using them. For me, moving out to a different brand would mean creating a whole new sound setup.
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Hmm it's something to consider, I guess. We have plenty of cabs right now though. We're trying to make the most use of what we have. We got two Yamaha 2x15 cabs, (I think they're either 2x12 or 2x15 but they sound much like 2x15's) and since our rhythm guitarist has his own halfstack, myself and our secondary lead guitarist are just going to ghetto rig our amps into the cabs for now, until our band fund grows more. Right now we depleted it with the purchase of a new pearl drum set that we got for a great price, but we still need the cymbals and that's another $319 for the set of 4.
How do you guys put money into your band fund? If it works like most band funds do, it sounds like by the time you have enough money for your Peavey Vypyr, it might be discontinued
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Oh, lol. Well, I might look into it. But, being honest, the brands you're mentioning, I've never played. I've been using Peavy's and Mesa's and Vader cabs and Crates since I started playing, and they've been generally really good to me, and I'm quite used to using them. For me, moving out to a different brand would mean creating a whole new sound setup.
I've mostly mentioned Peaveys. Good ones.

Also, amps can sound more alike than ones of the same brand. For example the SLO I play was the inspiration for the 5150 and the triple rectifier most likely.
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i have a crate GFX 212 doing the same thing. i've repaired it multiple times and the thing is just done. so for christmas i got a line 6 spider IV 75watt. i got it because the thing is really loud, sounds rad, and is small enough to take to practice/small shows.

its ten times the amp, actually has a crapton of tone, and is smaller than the crate. after getting the spider IV i ditched all my pedals except for the wah and just use all of the on board effects & tuner.
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Old 02-04-2010, 02:42 PM   #29
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My amp's input is suddenly hissing real bad. It's not my pedal, because I have a noise gate on there. It's not the reverb coils, because I removed those and it's still doing it.
Having my amp's volume all the way down, it still hisses just having a cable plugged into it.

Any advice on how to solve this problem?

Check your ground. I had the same problem with my amp and all I did was move it to a different receptacle although you may have a deeper problem like the plug or wiring. Even something as simple as a missing ground pin in your plug. But i would check my ground as that will definitely cause major fuzzing. The only reason i know this is cause i didnt have money for a new amp either and i had to fix my own.
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