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Unread 01-09-2010, 01:18 AM   #76
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but i wont be feeling the pain and struggles and changing strings and stuff with the one at gc. you know what i mean? i'll just mess with one thats already setup and stuff
yeah, till your first string change a month or two in, and from then on out... youll be feeling it.

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Unread 01-09-2010, 01:39 AM   #77
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If you're comfortable answering, what part of the country do you live in? If you're in the San Diego area, I'd love to have a crack at setting your guitar up.
He's in Texas, Steve.
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He's in Texas, Steve.
Apparently everything is bigger is Texas, including tuning problems.
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Unread 01-09-2010, 12:01 PM   #79
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If you're comfortable answering, what part of the country do you live in? If you're in the San Diego area, I'd love to have a crack at setting your guitar up.
down in arlington texas haha. nowhere near san diego
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down in arlington texas haha. nowhere near san diego
Dag...well I will be in the DFW (Plano?) in May for a few days. I'm coming out for a wedding though, so I don't know how much time I'll have.
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Dag...well I will be in the DFW (Plano?) in May for a few days. I'm coming out for a wedding though, so I don't know how much time I'll have.
ha well im hoping to have it sold by then but if i dont ill let ya know haha
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well i went up to gc today and played for awhile. i quickly played a hellraiser non fr, and a syn custom to feel fr. then i played a lp studio. absolutely killed the two schecters. it just felt so good. i played a couple of different studios and loved them

but question, why are some studios $1300, while some are like $800?

is there a difference in pickups or something?

and last thing, has anyone played a vox nighttrain? i played through one alot and it was SAWEET
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The $800 ones are the "Faded" series. They lack the gloss finish and more importantly the maple top of the usual Studio models. They also have different pickups. According to MF and GC, they also come with a bag instead of a hard case.

Not sure why the Faded series is being marketed as a "LP Studio" model these days. They're pretty darn different guitars.
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well i went up to gc today and played for awhile. i quickly played a hellraiser non fr, and a syn custom to feel fr. then i played a lp studio. absolutely killed the two schecters. it just felt so good. i played a couple of different studios and loved them

but question, why are some studios $1300, while some are like $800?

is there a difference in pickups or something?

and last thing, has anyone played a vox nighttrain? i played through one alot and it was SAWEET
The current Studio has two basic finish flavors: worn and not worn...or Faded and not Faded. They can't seem to make up their mind on what to call them...
Worn (or Les Paul Studio Faded) comes in brown and cherry and cost around $800. It features a thin nitrocelulose lacquer finish and the color choices are...limited. No maple top, too. They do feature Burstbucker Pro pickups.

Not worn (or just plain Les Paul Studio) features all of the pretty colors and it's a thicker nitro lacquer finish. They cost more because they require more materials and labor to finish. They feature 490R and 498T pickups.

There is also a Les Paul Studio Swamp Ash. It's available in natural ('cause Swamp Ash is oh-so pretty) and features the same 490/498 p/us of the Studio.

Then there is the Les Paul Studio Raw Power. It's very different.
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The current Studio has two basic finish flavors: worn and not worn...or Faded and not Faded. They can't seem to make up their mind on what to call them...
Worn (or Les Paul Studio Faded) comes in brown and cherry and cost around $800. It features a thin nitrocelulose lacquer finish and the color choices are...limited. No maple top, too. They do feature Burstbucker Pro pickups.

Not worn (or just plain Les Paul Studio) features all of the pretty colors and it's a thicker nitro lacquer finish. They cost more because they require more materials and labor to finish. They feature 490R and 498T pickups.

There is also a Les Paul Studio Swamp Ash. It's available in natural ('cause Swamp Ash is oh-so pretty) and features the same 490/498 p/us of the Studio.

Then there is the Les Paul Studio Raw Power. It's very different.
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ok thanks guys for the help. so there is a difference in pickups? becuase i thought i heard a difference, but they had the same name so i thought my ears were tricking me. I liked the sound of the non faded higher priced studio

and anything on the night train? i've been looking up reviews, but this thing seems like the perfect amp for my classic rock slash tone i want

sure it fails at metal, but the more i think about it, i dont play too much metal. i just listen to it alot. i dont actually like metal tones that much

much bigger fan of the smooth sweet sound of a les paul neck pickup with the tone rolled off into a cranked up tube amp

the night train seemed to get this sound quiet nicely. on the thick channel, even though you have no eq control (because on thick channel it bypasses eq), with the gain a little over half, and the volume waay up, it sounded b-e-a-utiful
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Unread 01-09-2010, 08:18 PM   #86
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While you're looking at the Night Train check out Bugera's new amp line. I've played the 22w combo before, the tone was awesome! For the price it'd be hard to beat. Vox might be better off in the long run though.
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This negatively affected my tone in ways that I just can't describe.
Then, on a whim, a few years ago I wandered into a Bath and Body Works store at a local mall and picked up some of their gentle foaming anti-bacterial hand cleansers.
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I don't think it's really fair to compare the Schecters and the Gibsons imo. My Schecter C-1 Hellraiser was $800 while a Gibson LP is about $1500 where I am. That's like double the price so if it didn't kill the Schecter in tone that would mean it's overpriced. To me an LP of comparable price to the Schecter (like Epiphone) is about the same, though I personally prefer the Schecter.
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I don't think it's really fair to compare the Schecters and the Gibsons imo. My Schecter C-1 Hellraiser was $800 while a Gibson LP is about $1500 where I am. That's like double the price so if it didn't kill the Schecter in tone that would mean it's overpriced. To me an LP of comparable price to the Schecter (like Epiphone) is about the same, though I personally prefer the Schecter.
well i also played some higher end epi lps and thought they killed the hellraiser in tone. maybe its just feel though. i like that thick juicy feel of the lps
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Since so many of the people you mention are known for their tones using a LP I'm not surprised you're digging it more than the schecter

As for the Night Train. Awesome amp at a great price! It's really amazing that you're able to get tone like that at such low prices these days. I had one for a short time and I really liked it alot.
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I don't think it's really fair to compare the Schecters and the Gibsons imo. My Schecter C-1 Hellraiser was $800 while a Gibson LP is about $1500 where I am. That's like double the price so if it didn't kill the Schecter in tone that would mean it's overpriced. To me an LP of comparable price to the Schecter (like Epiphone) is about the same, though I personally prefer the Schecter.
LP Studio Fadeds start at $700 around here.
Regular Studios can be had for around $900 to $1200.
Compared to an $800+ Schecter, they are hardly "overpriced".
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