question about my pod xt live

**thesteve** · 01-01-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chups01098

but lately, when i use a big muff on anything else it sounds crappy. i tried it on a fender twin, and now im building a jack white style tone on an orange model, and it sounds good till i turn on the big muff. the problem with it is it sounds "warbly" like really warbly and odd sounding

My first thought was that your problem was trying to build a Jack White style tone with an Orange as your base tone.

That being said, could something else in the chain (noise gate or compression) be causing the issues you're having?

**akaukal** · 01-01-2010, 08:18 AM

I'll give you a hint, Big Muff's don't sound good through Fender Twins.

It's a tricky pedal sometimes. One thing I find is that if you stick a big muff in front of a super clean, bright amp, it will sound awful, but through it in front of a semi-dirty amp that has a little more beef in the low end, and it will sound great.

Chups01098 · 01-01-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by thesteve

My first thought was that your problem was trying to build a Jack White style tone with an Orange as your base tone.

That being said, could something else in the chain (noise gate or compression) be causing the issues you're having?

let me explain the orange thing. jack uses silvertones for his crunch and a twin reverb for well his reverb. i honestly dont know if silvertones are real dirty or clean amps, but i know the twin is a clean amp. he said he just cranks his amps to dangerous levels. Since there is no way to simulate a 'cranked' amp without a pedal, i tried to find an already crunchy amp. the orange without much gain 9around 4 or 5) was nice for this. if you have any other suggestions please tell me.

i wish you could use two seperate stomp boxes. so i could have a clean amp, and have a light distortios on it, butt then still have a stomp box for a heaver distortion or a fuzz

**thesteve** · 01-01-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chups01098

let me explain the orange thing. jack uses silvertones for his crunch and a twin reverb for well his reverb. i honestly dont know if silvertones are real dirty or clean amps, but i know the twin is a clean amp. he said he just cranks his amps to dangerous levels. Since there is no way to simulate a 'cranked' amp without a pedal, i tried to find an already crunchy amp. the orange without much gain 9around 4 or 5) was nice for this. if you have any other suggestions please tell me.

i wish you could use two seperate stomp boxes. so i could have a clean amp, and have a light distortios on it, butt then still have a stomp box for a heaver distortion or a fuzz

I don't have a PODxt, but don't all of the amps allow you to adjust the drive and channel volume? For a more Jack White-esque tone, I would think you could take the Two Tone or Supro S6616 (Super-O) model and crank the drive all the way up.

Chups01098 · 01-01-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by thesteve

I don't have a PODxt, but don't all of the amps allow you to adjust the drive and channel volume? For a more Jack White-esque tone, I would think you could take the Two Tone or Supro S6616 (Super-O) model and crank the drive all the way up.

ok cool. now last question... why?

like what went trhough your mind to make you think those two?

**thesteve** · 01-01-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chups01098

ok cool. now last question... why?

like what went trhough your mind to make you think those two?

Both of those amps are more era appropriate (1950s/1960s) and the Supro (if their amps are anything like their guitars) is probably closer in build style to Jack's Silvertones than anything else in the stock PODxtL library.

Chups01098 · 01-01-2010, 11:21 AM

i just went back to the pod manuel and found descriptions for the two tone and supro o or whatever its called. they are both made by supro. the difference is one has like a 6 inch speaker or something

dude i tried both of them and the muff sounds bad.

is there a way to upload soundclips? i can record some of a muff on the ac30 and a muff on everything else. it seems to sound bad on everything. like it sounded good on lots of stuff two days ago but as of last night it sounds bad on everything

**thesteve** · 01-01-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chups01098

i just went back to the pod manuel and found descriptions for the two tone and supro o or whatever its called. they are both made by supro. the difference is one has like a 6 inch speaker or something

dude i tried both of them and the muff sounds bad.

is there a way to upload soundclips? i can record some of a muff on the ac30 and a muff on everything else. it seems to sound bad on everything. like it sounded good on lots of stuff two days ago but as of last night it sounds bad on everything

How do those amps sound when cranked (drive) without the fuzz in front of them?

Chups01098 · 01-01-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by thesteve

How do those amps sound when cranked (drive) without the fuzz in front of them?

great. absolutely delicous lol

**thesteve** · 01-01-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chups01098

great. absolutely delicous lol

So then why does it matter if the fuzz sounds bad on top of them? Part of your problem might be the mixing of the drive of the amps combined with the fuzz of the pedal. The combined effect might just be destroying your overall tone.

The fact that it sounded good the other day but not now suggestes to me that something else changed though. I know if sounds goofy, but have you tuned your guitar lately?

Chups01098 · 01-01-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by thesteve

So then why does it matter if the fuzz sounds bad on top of them? Part of your problem might be the mixing of the drive of the amps combined with the fuzz of the pedal. The combined effect might just be destroying your overall tone.

The fact that it sounded good the other day but not now suggestes to me that something else changed though. I know if sounds goofy, but have you tuned your guitar lately?

yeeah i cant stand an out of tune guitar. i tune it like every 20 min.

ok so if its the amp drive clashing, but i still want a crunch soud without fuzz how would this idea work.

i have one patch with no fuzz just the amp with drive all the way up for a nice crunch.

then on another patch the amp drive is way down but fuzz is on?

it could work.

it would be more difficult than just hittin stomp to fuzzalize it though. cuz when you change channels theres a brake in sound

**thesteve** · 01-01-2010, 12:14 PM

I didn't realize there was latency between patch changes on the PODxtL. I would have suggested what it sounds like you already tried, which was just building different patches that work for you and saving them, then switching between them.

Also, you can upload mp3s to CGR. In the reply window scroll down to the "Additional Options" box and select "Manage Attachments". This will open up a file upload window for you.

Chups01098 · 01-01-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thesteve

I didn't realize there was latency between patch changes on the PODxtL. I would have suggested what it sounds like you already tried, which was just building different patches that work for you and saving them, then switching between them.

Also, you can upload mp3s to CGR. In the reply window scroll down to the "Additional Options" box and select "Manage Attachments". This will open up a file upload window for you.

that was it the whole time. i had drive and volume on the amp too high. when i lower those and add fuzz it sounds good