Trapping / Hunting

Ak_Man4Jesus · 12-20-2009, 07:15 PM

I was wondering, what is your opinion on hunting/trapping? I hant and trap, so was going to post some of my stuff in my blog, and might from time to time post it other places.

If there are more people here that don't like hunting trapping then there are people that think is is ok, or don't care one way of the other, I won't talk about it.

Please vote.

I guess I can post about that stuff then.

Thanks

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 12-21-2009, 05:26 PM

I'm not a big fan of traps. They seem highly cruel to me. Leg hold traps and their ilk. I have used them and caught things I did not want to. They are indiscriminant as well, so it seems to be a poor choice to me.

I am not fond of using insufficient calibers to dispatch creatures either. BTW, I used to hunt coyotes, and other predators extensively.

I have hunted rabbits and other things as well, but the big thing to me is humanely hunting. I know people who are careless about their shots and calibers and it really bugs me to torture an animal that way.

**slap_j** · 12-21-2009, 05:44 PM

I've been hunting a few times but find no pleasure in it. I understand it is a necessity in certain situations and I have no problems with that. I'm not sure how I feel about hunting only for sport but I don't find it entirely distasteful. I am curious about the morality of it though. I do have a strong aversion to malice or carelessness that ends up harming animals. A man who kicks his dog is a punk and probably wouldn't treat a person much better.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 12-21-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slap_j

I've been hunting a few times but find no pleasure in it. I understand it is a necessity in certain situations and I have no problems with that. I'm not sure how I feel about hunting only for sport but I don't find it entirely distasteful. I am curious about the morality of it though. I do have a strong aversion to malice or carelessness that ends up harming animals. A man who kicks his dog is a punk and probably wouldn't treat a person much better.

Meh, I once kicked a dog in the head, but in my defense, it was trying to bite me and it was a large dog. I am surprised my foot didn't get bit off, but I found out it was old, slow, mean and overweight. Its owner still does not like me.

I hunted only for conservation purposes and for human protection. Yes, even the rabbits was an attempt to lower population to mess with the coyotes overbreeding as the rabbit population explosion results in an overpopulation of the predators at an unsustainable rate.

A child had already been attacked when I was hired.

**slap_j** · 12-21-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

Meh, I once kicked a dog in the head, but in my defense, it was trying to bite me and it was a large dog. I am surprised my foot didn't get bit off, but I found out it was old, slow, mean and overweight. Its owner still does not like me.

Self-defense is not what I had in mind.

Bill, what do you think about trophy hunting?

Ak_Man4Jesus · 12-22-2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

I'm not a big fan of traps. They seem highly cruel to me. Leg hold traps and their ilk. I have used them and caught things I did not want to. They are indiscriminant as well, so it seems to be a poor choice to me.

I am not fond of using insufficient calibers to dispatch creatures either. BTW, I used to hunt coyotes, and other predators extensively.

I have hunted rabbits and other things as well, but the big thing to me is humanely hunting. I know people who are careless about their shots and calibers and it really bugs me to torture an animal that way.

just out of curiosity, what cartridge did you use, and did you load your own ammo? I use a savage 7mm/08, loaded with hornadt 139gr bt

shad peters · 07-17-2010, 03:18 PM

i mosty have no issues with trapping or hunting, i have done my fair share of both, in all honesty mother nature can be pretty brutal and a quick shot to the head in my opinion is much more humane that being hit by a car, or mauled by a coyote, and trapping can be done humanely, there are ways to trap for a nearly instant kill. my issue just comes in with waste, i hate the waste that often occurs when animals are trapped souly for their fur or shot for their antlers. just my 2 cents.

**JesusFreakGirl** · 10-05-2010, 04:28 PM

Trapping is a big no in my book, and hunting is a yes, as long as you hunt for the food and for depopulating in an overpopulated area, but hunting for sport/pride/to show off what you kill, no thanks.

jthomas1600 · 10-14-2010, 08:03 AM

Trapping. If it's done in the most humane way possible, if you check your traps everyday, and it's part of how you survive/make a living (like you're a real mountain man) I have no problem with it. It seems like a poor choice of hobbies though.

Hunting. I've been once and did not care for it. I love being out in the woods. Why ruin that by making it a lot of work? lol.

I've noticed hunting means different things depending on where you're from. In the south (Tx. La, Ms.) etc. where I've been at for the last few years feeding the dear/setting out salt licks is legal and acceptable. In the N. W. it is not. So you set out an auto feeder that puts corn on the ground twice a day for two months before hunting season and get the dear to show up at the same place, same time, every day. Then you you climb up in a stand a few hours before the deer show up and you just shoot the biggest one from about 20 yards away when he gets there. I'm sorry, but that's not hunting in my book. In Oregon you spend days driving/hiking around some extremely rugged terrain, end up with a very difficult shot, and then have to gut and haul the dang thing through the woods to get it to your truck. That's hunting.

bobthecockroach · 10-14-2010, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jthomas1600

Trapping. If it's done in the most humane way possible, if you check your traps everyday, and it's part of how you survive/make a living (like you're a real mountain man) I have no problem with it. It seems like a poor choice of hobbies though.

Hunting. I've been once and did not care for it. I love being out in the woods. Why ruin that by making it a lot of work? lol.

I've noticed hunting means different things depending on where you're from. In the south (Tx. La, Ms.) etc. where I've been at for the last few years feeding the dear/setting out salt licks is legal and acceptable. In the N. W. it is not. So you set out an auto feeder that puts corn on the ground twice a day for two months before hunting season and get the dear to show up at the same place, same time, every day. Then you you climb up in a stand a few hours before the deer show up and you just shoot the biggest one from about 20 yards away when he gets there. I'm sorry, but that's not hunting in my book. In Oregon you spend days driving/hiking around some extremely rugged terrain, end up with a very difficult shot, and then have to gut and haul the dang thing through the woods to get it to your truck. That's hunting.

This just begs a Python reference:

YouTube - Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen

**Josey Wales** · 10-14-2010, 08:43 AM

dude, i'm a hunter from michigan, hunting/trapping/fishing, it's all good as long as you plan to use the critter, and you make it as painless as possible. theres no issue with hunting or trapping, god put these guys here for us to eat, so eat up

... living in the city i can't hunt now, but i would give anything to go deer hunting right about now.

farouk · 10-20-2010, 12:22 PM

The evolution crowd doesn't see much difference between human beings and animals.

So many of them tend to be against hunting animals as creatures at a supposed different stage of evolution.

Well, guess what? I'm a Creationist.

(But we should beware of unconsciously receiving philosophy from a source Christians don't have reason to trust.)

**slap_j** · 10-20-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by farouk

So many of them tend to be against hunting animals as creatures at a supposed different stage of evolution.

What do you mean? Like there is some advanced stage of evolution they're headed toward?

K45T · 10-28-2010, 09:24 AM

Hunting merely for the rack (speaking of whitetail deer) is frowned upon by hunters, the NRA, IHCA, and numerous other firearms and hunting related groups. If you kill it, eat it. If it's got a nice rack, then there's nothing wrong with having it mounted to show the majesty of God's creatures. If you kill an animal on purpose, take the edible meat and eat it or give it to someone who will. It is actually a crime to let edible meat go to waste here in Texas. I use a 30-30 marlin lever action, a 12 gauge Mossberg 500, and a .410.

K45T · 10-28-2010, 09:31 AM

I hunt from my backyard. Most shots are 20 to 100 yards. We only have a twenty acre piece of land, but it's good hunting ground. It's thick bush. I just took my hunter's ed course about a month ago. My dream gear is a blind under a tree outfitted with thick brush and ghillie netting, and a ghillie suit for myself, along with an AR-15 type rifle outfitted with a scope and a lengthened barrel, re-chambered for .308, and as a back up (due to the ever rising presence of wild hogs) a Colt M1911A1 .45, along with an eight inch tanto knife. Like I said, I hunt off the land I live on, so it's not too hard to bring a deer out. We just had the land cleared over the summer. At one point it was unable to get through. We could only go on about three of our 20 acres.