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Old 11-23-2009, 04:32 AM   #1
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Were these guys full preterists?

II Timothy 2
16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

17And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;

18Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

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Old 11-23-2009, 05:52 AM   #2
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II Timothy 2
16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

17And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;

18Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.


Don't know. This is about all the info we have on them. They definitely are not todays preterists because they say most of the book of REvelation rotates around Nero.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:55 AM   #3
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I agree with nolidad in pointing to Revelation. Full preterism isn't only about the return of Christ or the resurrection, but also about the other prophecies in Revelation, and I don't see anything in 2 Tim to imply Hymenaeus and Philetus were aware of Revelation (which, on the Preterist view, must have been written by this time, since the Pastorals are the latest of Paul's writings, and a Preterist view requires the dating of Revelation before the destruction of Jerusalem). I think Paul's warning militates against Full Preterism, since a Full Preterist believes the Resurrection has occurred. But there's no indication here that the false teachers believe that the Second Coming has happened. I don't think we can assume that Hymenaeus and Philetus were working with a full New Testament or had worked out a consistent eschatology just because, in later times, the Full Preterists have attempted to do so.
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