Help me choose between Schecter C1 Classic , Schecter PT and Parker PM20

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 11-04-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crushedice

I Think the C1 classic doesnt have coil tapping.
But the Symour duncans must do a good job any ways.

It does have coil-splitting. (None of these guitars mentioned have a coil tap. My C-1 classic has been fairly problematic. I have had lifted frets and have had to replace all the pots and switch...

**Dwight Schrute** · 11-04-2009, 01:15 PM

ouch. change my answer to the Parker, though I have never liked one that I played.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 11-04-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterDominator

ouch. change my answer to the Parker, though I have never liked one that I played.

I think the inlays make for a little bit of a weak grab of the fretwire. I am thinking of redoing the frets on mine altogether. When it works, it is a great guitar. Unfortunately, mine has been unreliable. Everytime I have taken it to a gig, something has broken, rendering it unplayable.

S.Raton · 11-04-2009, 09:10 PM

Own a C-1 plus. Good for rock and modern country but not made to get that single coil sound. The C-1 plus has coil split but I could tell little difference.using that feature. A mexi fat strat might work. I do really love my C-1 not the most versitile, thats why I have old ( USA ) Peavey preditor. I some times need that single coil sound. Hope you find an axe that suites your needs.

crushedice · 11-05-2009, 03:35 AM

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It does have coil-splitting. (None of these guitars mentioned have a coil tap.

Oh any thread which tells of diff between Coil split and Coil tap? I checked
Guitar Coil Tap and Guitar Coil Tapping
But the very second line goes like this:
"For the purposes of this discussion we will refer to coil tapping as being the same as coil splitting."
LOL

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ouch. change my answer to the Parker, though I have never liked one that I played.

LOL
I like the very different look of this parker. The other parkers other that P42 are very expensive.
Also it helps that it comes with a gig bag and since this needs to be brought in to India from US, the fact that this is the lightest of the three helps (you know the airline lugage policy of intternational airlines).

I do have a roughly 100$ guitar with me now. i thought I'd just change the pickups to something nice for single coil and get the fretoard and action refined to fill in for now (for the single coil sounds if i suddenly feel i missing out on it). I went over all the suggestions overnight and thought I like the modern Country sound better (URBAN style). But i still have about another twenty days before i make the purchase.
Thank you everybody (so far) who's written in on this

crazymoose · 11-05-2009, 08:07 AM

I have a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser. It's different than the C-1 classic cause it's got active EMG's, not Duncans. (and I think it's more expensive) Still it's a great guitar, I've never really had any problems with it that I haven't been able to solve. (I had a bunch of set up issues cause I got way overcharged for a crappy setup by the guy at the music store) Though it is my only electric right now so I might be kinda biased.

Also, you live in India? I wonder if you could save a bunch by ordering directly from the manufacturers in South Korea. Then you don't have to try and get it overseas.

gtrdave · 11-05-2009, 09:03 AM

Take the following for what it's worth:
Try to find an ESP LTD PB-500 and compare it against the ones you're looking at.
To me, it's one of the hidden gems in modern electric guitars, especially the model equipped with the Duncan P-rails, but both models are very versatile and can be had for a steal since they didn't seem to catch on. I've seen them new for as low as $475 and used for $250.
Add to all of this the typical pro ESP set-up and you've got an out-the-door awesome player.

The store around here has a couple left.
ESP ESP LTD Standard Series PB-500 w/Duncan P-Rails Electric Guitar - Accent Music, Delaware's Music Store, Guitars, Keyboards & Drums

Your other choices are ok. Schecters usually do nothing for me other than a couple 006 models that I played once. I didn't expect to like them based on my past experience, but they were really nice axes for the $$$, imho.
That said, I'll always prefer ESP's LTD line over Schecter. They're all owned by the same parent company, but ESP and Schecter are run independently from one another and it's been my experience that ESP produces a better overall product in the LTD line than Schecter.
A kid at church just got a new EC-401 and I played it yesterday. Off the shelf it's set-up perfectly and plays/sounds awesome.

I'm indifferent on Parkers. I dig the body shape and like the somewhat exotic twist they seem to build into their guitars, but I'm not crazy about the sound and tone of their cheaper instruments.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 11-05-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by crazymoose

I have a Schecter C-1 Hellraiser. It's different than the C-1 classic cause it's got active EMG's, not Duncans. (and I think it's more expensive) Still it's a great guitar, I've never really had any problems with it that I haven't been able to solve. (I had a bunch of set up issues cause I got way overcharged for a crappy setup by the guy at the music store) Though it is my only electric right now so I might be kinda biased.

Also, you live in India? I wonder if you could save a bunch by ordering directly from the manufacturers in South Korea. Then you don't have to try and get it overseas.

The C-1 classic is more expensive than the hellraiser, generally speaking. It also does not have the inlays of the classic.

**Dwight Schrute** · 11-05-2009, 10:56 AM

I only play BC Rich electric guitars, and as such was limited to the EM series for the mahogany body with maple top for the PRS-style guitar. it's not the best guitar in terms of quality but it has stellar tone. hence my recommendation of the C1 - typically that combination in wood is stellar and it's the only one on your list with those yummy specs that I could stomach (cough Parker cough)

I hadn't given the fretwork much thought though - with all that eye candy it's pretty but makes sense what Bill said about them coming up.

crushedice · 11-05-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by crazymoose

Also, you live in India? I wonder if you could save a bunch by ordering directly from the manufacturers in South Korea. Then you don't have to try and get it overseas.

I think they're setup anyway in the USA (crafted in Korea n setup in USA). Atleast the C1 classic maybe.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 11-05-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by crushedice

I think they're setup anyway in the USA (crafted in Korea n setup in USA). Atleast the C1 classic maybe.

That is correct. I do suggest looking at Old Japanese Charvels as possible ones, and Peavey USA's on ebay. I think GtrDave made a good point about ESP.

I am thinking of pulling the frets and redoing them on my c-1.

Duffy · 11-05-2009, 06:40 PM

I have 2 schecters not badJ; just got a new Michael Kelly Patriot Custom n its awesome. Directlky mounted to the wood HBs with incredible tone. 550. Just also got a Squier Classic vibe 50s strat lake placid blue n put on an aged new white pearl pickguard n Fender custom shop Texas special single coils: incredible. Other great inexpensive axes from guitarfetish.com Xavier brand have xv500 on way in sea foam green; n rondomusic.com SX n Agile super good brands.

Duffy

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Originally Posted by crushedice

Hiya all,
I need to chose between a schecter C1 Classic (in three tone Sunburst), A Schecter PT and Parker PM20 (natural Quilt Bubinga top).
I'l be playing through Line 6 POD X3 live, mainly for Church.

You might notice that prices are pretty close. Ive left out Fender and Gibson because in this price range they, from reviews I've read, all seem to need after market setup. But these three seem to have satisfied many people straight out of the box.

Looks are important as well!!! please help me choose people!!!

crazymoose · 11-06-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

The C-1 classic is more expensive than the hellraiser, generally speaking. It also does not have the inlays of the classic.

C-1Hellraiser is $750 on zzzounds, and C-1 classic is $500.

And I'll agree on the ESP/LTD suggestion. I think if I lost my Schecter I'd probably replace it with one of those. The only thing that bothers me about them is they have these nice inlays but then on the twelfth fret its a boring rectangle with the model number. It bothered me whenever I saw it.