Rehousing project.

relient nelson · 10-11-2009, 07:04 PM

So a friend of mine is going to work with me on rehousing a PB&J delay.

We're gonna true-bypass it, and hopefully change it so when you turn the pedal on and off it doesn't automatically default back to the "Long" delay setting.

I searched the interweb for rehouses of this pedal and the only one I found with any schems was a very complicated mod done by experimentalistsanonymous.com

So I was wondering if anyone had rehoused one of the Dano minis before, or if anyone electronically inclined who owned one wouldn't mind taking a look inside real quick to give me any suggestions on how to do this best.

As far as exactly what I'm looking for.. I don't really know. General ideas, possible problems we could run into... whatever ya got.

Thanks.

LWatford · 10-11-2009, 07:59 PM

most of the dano minis have a separate board for the switching, so you'll need to find that. It'll probably need to be made to always be on, then find the in and out points of the board. There's a good tutorial of someone that rehoused the Dano vibe, I'll see if I can find it.

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...rehouse&page=2

starts around the end of the second page

relient nelson · 10-12-2009, 12:37 AM

I'm having trouble finding the tutorial there :/

**thesteve** · 10-12-2009, 12:47 AM

Hey...next time I have it home, I'll have to take a look at my PB&J as I've also considered rehousing it. Everything I've heard on the topic made it sound like rehousing the Dano minis was more effort than it was worth.

I did find a rehousing guide for the Tuna Melt tremolo: Danelectro Tuna Melt Tremolo re-housing guide - The Gear Page

I'm not sure how the long/short switch works on the PB&J, but if it's possible, your best solution with that might be to install a toggle switch. Of course this would not allow you to switch back and forth easily as you could with the stomp. The ease/trouble of the project in general is going to depend on how complicated the switching system is. My suspicion is that everything is electronic switching, which could make it difficult to TB.

I do like your idea though, and I'm glad I found this Tuna Melt walkthrough. I've thought about rehousing the PB&J and Tuna Melt before in the past, though at the moment my PB&J is an indispensable part of my board, so no modding that.

Ax · 10-12-2009, 12:55 AM

Not sure true bypassing will work on that particular pedal. Id' have to look at the schems but if yu have to press a button while it's on to switch between types of delays and it's not an analogue switch, then you're gonna come out better buying a new one.

relient nelson · 10-12-2009, 10:00 AM

From what I can tell from the schems of other dano mini's, it is kind of a pain to bypass... so this is the solution we're working on. Build a true bypass loop into the rehouse, then loop the guts of the delay into that loop. Have the pedal always "on". That would solve the true bypass problem and the long/short switch problem. Be pretty simple too, I think.

You guys think that would work?

**thesteve** · 10-12-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by relient nelson

From what I can tell from the schems of other dano mini's, it is kind of a pain to bypass... so this is the solution we're working on. Build a true bypass loop into the rehouse, then loop the guts of the delay into that loop. Have the pedal always "on". That would solve the true bypass problem and the long/short switch problem. Be pretty simple too, I think.

You guys think that would work?

You'd still need a switch to change from long to short every time you powered the pedal. That in mind, why not just get a TB loop and not rehouse?

relient nelson · 10-12-2009, 11:10 AM

its going to be a two switch pedal. One which operates the bypass, and one that controls the long/short.

I've definitely considered just buying a TB loop, but I really want it rehoused because of the knobs on the mini now. They are way too small.

I also don't wanna have to worry about the cheapo plastic case as I gig with it... now that I mention it.. the cheapo jacks... and knobs.. and switches too. haha

**thesteve** · 10-12-2009, 11:17 AM

I'm trying to remember because I don't have mine here, but does the PB&J automatically turn on when you supply it with power?

relient nelson · 10-12-2009, 11:25 AM

hmm... i don't think so... my friend has it in pieces right now, so I won't be able to check for a while. Why do you ask exactly?

**thesteve** · 10-12-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by relient nelson

hmm... i don't think so... my friend has it in pieces right now, so I won't be able to check for a while. Why do you ask exactly?

Because if it doesn't power on when you put the adapter into it, how is your TB loop switching going to be a solution. That is to say, how is the pedal going to be "always on", if you can't access the switch to turn it on.

Ax · 10-12-2009, 12:23 PM

Seriously dude, you're not gonna get what you want out of this pedal, rehoused and uber modded or no.

**thesteve** · 10-12-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ax

Seriously dude, you're not gonna get what you want out of this pedal, rehoused and uber modded or no.

I'm sure it can be done and it could even be done in a way that would achieve what he wants. Like I said earlier in the thread though, I'm not sure if it's worth it. The Tuna Melt Tremolo mod thread I linked to looked like a lot of fun, but also a lot of work. I'm sure the PB&J is much more complex than the trem.

**jamforchrist123** · 10-12-2009, 01:00 PM

I know the OP is wanting to do this himself, so I am not really directing this to him, but to anybody else that is looking at this thread wanting their nano's re-housed, the guy from this site:

Pedals

is a really cool guy and when I get the money he is going to re-house my tuna melt for around $25-ish which I personally think is worth it. I figured if there are other people like me that don't know how the heck to work with the insides of pedals, this might be handy!

Edit: I lied. After shipping and everything, the done deal will be around $40. Maybe I will actually look to doing it myself...

relient nelson · 10-12-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ax

Seriously dude, you're not gonna get what you want out of this pedal, rehoused and uber modded or no.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't get what this has to do with the topic at all.