[JerryLove]

Originally Posted by nolidad

Well first you just said time and money:

Right. His time: campaigning on national TV, and his money setting up websites promoting the march.

Try to keep up noli.

now you are adding websites and on TV campaigns? What will you add next??

I'm failing to see how this rebukes what I said. Do you acknowledge that beck, who spent his time and his money (among other things) on a national campaign to recruit and organize "protesters" is "a sponsor"?

Withthe govt. in charge yes it is socialist and yes I am oppossed.

So you imagine a private company in the truest capitalist sense providing services to all regardless of ability to pay for it? I thought we were trying to discuss reality. I should have known better.

Well they are truisms accepted by many :

Appeal to popularity fallacy.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely

It's interesting you repeat this one since I didn't dispute it. I'm suddenly wondering about God's absolute corruption.

Irrelevant- brotherly love- the party of today would reject his conservative philosophy.

So the democrats who held power in the party when Kennedy was in the whitehouse still held power in the party last year but would reject the same guy they embraced? If I thought you could support that, I'd ask you for your support.

[grand_master_d]

Thanks Jerry!

[nolidad]

I'm failing to see how this rebukes what I said. Do you acknowledge that beck, who spent his time and his money (among other things) on a national campaign to recruit and organize "protesters" is "a sponsor"?

Not in the least. I just said that with the original criteria of time and money given to the march- there were upwards fo 4-5 million sponsors. Beck proudly promoted and encouraged people to go to the march.

I just saw that it went from time and money, to you adding websites and tv endorsements thats all. I do not try to read behind the lines. Millions donated time and money to the march ands the local events for those who couldn't make it to DC. time and money does not equal tv and websites as synonymous terms.

So you imagine a private company in the truest capitalist sense providing services to all regardless of ability to pay for it? I thought we were trying to discuss reality. I should have known better.

Well I can't imagine anything in the "truest" capitalist sense- fopr I do not know how YOU define that so I do not know if I could agree. Capitalism does not eschew a relationship with govt. It is essential!

It's interesting you repeat this one since I didn't dispute it. I'm suddenly wondering about God's absolute corruption.

HMMMM Interesting thought from one who is convinced He doesn't exist! So this is just a red herring!

Appeal to popularity fallacy.

Well in a country that the govt. is of, by, and for th epeople- statements that are truisms are popular realities.

[JerryLove]

Not in the least. I just said that with the original criteria of time and money given to the march- there were upwards fo 4-5 million sponsors. Beck proudly promoted and encouraged people to go to the march.

So there was a charismatic promoter? Just admit you were wrong.

Well I can't imagine anything in the "truest" capitalist sense- fopr I do not know how YOU define that so I do not know if I could agree. Capitalism does not eschew a relationship with govt. It is essential!

That does seem to be your mantra-of-the-day.

So you now want government intervention and regulation: the government guarenteeing the availability and solvency of a health-care company? I assume you feel equally positive about fanny-mae, freddie-mac, and the FRB?

HMMMM Interesting thought from one who is convinced He doesn't exist! So this is just a red herring!

You are right. that was a red herring. Rather than dispute yourself and say the God was nor corrupt, nor confirm your belief and say that God was corrupt, you threw up a non-responsive "you don't believe in God" to see if the dog would loose the fox-scent (the origin of "red herring").

So do you not believe that absolute power corrupts, or do you not believe God has absolute power, or do you believe God to be corrupt?

Well in a country that the govt. is of, by, and for th epeople- statements that are truisms are popular realities.

So the world was flat, but only in democratic countries: and the sun did orbit the Earth, but only in democratic countries?!?

What were you saying about red herrings?