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Old 10-19-2009, 12:01 PM   #106
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Well I can't argue it, I still just have those 'never-win' Coyotes franchise in my head. I really wanted them to be sold, so I have a grudge against them.
I'd really love to see Shane Doan make the playoffs, he deserves to get back in there.
Why did you want them to be sold? Only casual hockey fans would root for them, as everyone in the Hamilton area either goes for the Leafs or the Sabres.

Shane Doan definitely deserves everything he gets and more.

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Old 10-19-2009, 03:05 PM   #107
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Because I am whole heartedly against American franchises being set up where it makes no sense to set them up.
Nashville, Atlanta, Florida, San Jose, Minnesota . . .

Some work out fine, Minnesota seems to be ok.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:13 PM   #108
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Because I am whole heartedly against American franchises being set up where it makes no sense to set them up.
Nashville, Atlanta, Florida, San Jose, Minnesota . . .

Some work out fine, Minnesota seems to be ok.
Why? I mean, honestly, does that mean baseball teams shouldn't play in cold weather areas?

The fact is, San Jose gets some of the best fan support in the league. If a team is in a place where they can get some support, what is the problem?
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:17 PM   #109
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Hehe,
I just said that to see your reaction, including making the list.

Forgive me, fans of these teams. I may dislike these teams but I have nothing against them as franchises. I just felt like portraying a little Avery here . . .
I've been raised to hate the expansion teams, it's taking a little while for me to accept them. Though I still am unsure about the teams with no fanbase, such as Florida.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:19 PM   #110
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Why? I mean, honestly, does that mean baseball teams shouldn't play in cold weather areas?

The fact is, San Jose gets some of the best fan support in the league. If a team is in a place where they can get some support, what is the problem?
San Jose and Minnesota routinely sell out. Nashville, Atlanta, and Florida are another story altogether. When Florida makes the playoffs this year, though, they'll do better in that department.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:23 PM   #111
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San Jose and Minnesota routinely sell out. Nashville, Atlanta, and Florida are another story altogether. When Florida makes the playoffs this year, though, they'll do better in that department.
I recall people saying that last year, I don't think they sold out a game.
Did they even make playoffs last year? I can't remember.
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I recall people saying that last year, I don't think they sold out a game.
Did they even make playoffs last year? I can't remember.
Honestly, if you don't even know the facts, it's awfully silly to make judgements. Florida came just short of the playoffs last year.

The NHL has had some remarkable successes in warmer climates, such as San Jose. What is required is success. Tampa Bay did quite well during their Stanley Cup season and for a bit after it. Unfortunately, they were completely mis-handled by ownership and management and have fallen apart. The fans have left as well. San Jose, on the other hand, has been steady and consistent in putting together winning seasons and has gained a solid fanbase.

Toronto, on the other hand, which is in the most hockey-mad area in the entire NHL has had tickets selling for half-price because of their early lack of success this season. Vancouver, when they had several seasons in the late-90's of mediocre hockey, did very poorly at the gate, only getting things turned around when the West Coast Express line of Morrison, Naslund, and Bertuzzi started lighting up the scoresheet. The Canucks put together several solid seasons and have won back their fanbase.

Don't be so quick to jump on the expansion franchises; it's the lack of success on the ice that contributes the most to their lack of success off the ice.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:15 AM   #113
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Come on, can't a guy express himself? I am very aware of how San Jose sells out more games than many other NHL teams these days, and I am also aware of the Tampa situation. I was just 'talking smack' about some teams, isn't that what hockey fans do?
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:53 AM   #114
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Minnesota has sold out every game since the beginning of the franchise...but we still suck.
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:57 AM   #115
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I knew you'd pop up defending the Wild.
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Come on, can't a guy express himself? I am very aware of how San Jose sells out more games than many other NHL teams these days, and I am also aware of the Tampa situation. I was just 'talking smack' about some teams, isn't that what hockey fans do?
Yeah. And your team sucks.

San Jose gave up two quick goals to the Rangers, then went to work. 6-3 final. Sharks first visitors to win in the Garden this year.
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Yeah. And your team sucks.
Ouch.


Bruins tackle the Predators today, hopefully they can play some hockey and pull this off.
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:04 PM   #118
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Yeah. And your team sucks.
Classic!

I believe the appropriate response is, "No, your team sucks!"
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Come on, can't a guy express himself? I am very aware of how San Jose sells out more games than many other NHL teams these days, and I am also aware of the Tampa situation. I was just 'talking smack' about some teams, isn't that what hockey fans do?
I'm just saying it's best to talk smack with the facts. That's all.
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Old 10-21-2009, 03:44 AM   #120
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I'm just saying it's best to talk smack with the facts. That's all.
I wracked by brain for a bashing fact against the Canucks, but instead of overworking myself, I will do what I do best; bash with unofficial facts.
The nucKs SUck, they dIDNt eveN mAke playOFFSs last year!@2@@!!!!
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