[nolidad]

You are confusing it with this critter:

Below is the scietific name given in the link you first gave from the Ca. Govt. fish and game site.



Hypomesus transpacificus)

And this is the name from the Ca. academy of Sciences

nipponensis, Hypomesus transpacificus

Distribution: Asia/northwestern Pacific. Habitat: freshwater, brackish, marine.

so it is the delta smelt--nipponensis (delta smelt Japan)- same fish (hypomesus transpacificus)- with a differing location (nipponensis) the smelt is found only in one location in America but it is found in other parts of the workld

[JerryLove]

I can't understand how you managed to miss the proof a thrid time. Here it is a fourth.

http://www.delta.dfg.ca.gov/gallery/dsmelt.asp
http://ecos.fws.gov/speciesProfile/p...on?spcode=E070
Delta smelt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hypomesus transpacificus, Delta smelt
Data Use Agreement - GBIF Portal

[nolidad]

Originally Posted by JerryLove

I can't understand how you managed to miss the proof a thrid time. Here it is a fourth.

DFG - Bay Delta Region
Species Profile for Delta smelt (Hypomesus transpacificus)
Delta smelt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hypomesus transpacificus, Delta smelt
Data Use Agreement - GBIF Portal

Well now we have gone to the subspecies set which is a whole new ball game.

The little critter listed by the california academy of sciences is called

Hypomesus transpacificus which ios called the delta smelt in two of your links. BUT:

Another site lists it as :

Hypomesus transpacificus transpacificus

or the transpacific delta smelt.

Calif. academy of sciences listed theirs as

hypomesus transpacificus nipponsensis

or the japan delta smelt- subset of the same fish--just like homosapine caucasus, and homo sapien mongoloid are just different subsets of the same genus and species man.

Now if you want to talk about teh subspecies unique to the delta- I agree with you that subspecies is found there. But delta smelts are found elsewhere as I showed.

First, let's check your numbers. For fairness, I'll use your own reference:
The man-made actions have been devastating to California's San Joaquin Valley where it is estimated that this year alone up to 35,000 jobs will be lost

So you said 80k and counting. Your cite says 35k will. That makes your claim a lie.

I have been wondering why you have been harping on this so much and now I know why .

I never used the cites to prove the claim of 80,000 unemployed as you keep trying to say I did. I used it to disprove your claim of this:

BTW. I bothered to go look up your original complaint, and it's simply a lie.


No Jerry-- you do!

FNC: Drought-Stricken Farmers Lose Fight for Water to Endangered Fish | NewsBusters.org

Truckers to Help California Farmers Faced with Water Crisis | AskTheTrucker

Farmers vs. Fish Amid the California Drought - TIME

Republicans Call for Action to Address Man-Made Drought (California farmers lose fight to fishes)

Also it may be interesting to know this is not a native fish to America- it was introduced to our waters from Asia.

As for the Salmon- there are many other fish species they can dine on- I wonder what they ate before this man made river went into ops in 1968?? And when there were no delta smelt. it seems the salmon didn't suffer so much. If it is such an endangered species why ar etrhey still pumping from othr locations in the delta for water to drink?

to prove this was a govt. indiced drought in the central valley due to the fish. Not one of these were used to prove the 80 K claim.

Then when you saw the discepancy inth enumbers you posted and I responded here.

The man-made actions have been devastating to California's San Joaquin Valley where it is estimated that this year alone up to 35,000 jobs will be lost

So you said 80k and counting. Your cite says 35k will. That makes your claim a lie.

Well that was a may 9 report- as of last week it is now 80,000 as my reference said ir would climb to

So either you are a very careless reader or youa re intnetionally playing games to devert attention from the fact that this is a govt. made disaster. You and not me are using this as a claim for the 80,000 jobs lost in the central valley this year so far due to the delta smelt which is found in several locations but teh sub species known as transcificus is only in the san joaquin delta.
Either way you are very disingenious in your manipulating your information on this tragedy.

But on a brighter note I have a new tool to help me in my debating you. It should allow me to spot your strategies to deviate form the topics by your little rabbit trails.

It is Glenn Becks new book

[nolidad]

Jerry BTW: One of your sites you used to call me a liar even shows the two countries where the fiswh occurs Japan and America just like I said. OOPS sorry.

[JayCarrFan]

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