NFL 2009

bowstaff981 · 11-16-2009, 11:13 AM

I'm just going to go ahead and say it. What the heck was Belichick thinking?

Bad weekend for me in football, but at least the Steeler's lost again to the Bengals

TunerSteve · 11-16-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bowstaff981

I'm just going to go ahead and say it. What the heck was Belichick thinking?

Bad weekend for me in football, but at least the Steeler's lost again to the Bengals

Almost any other coach in the league would be packing up his belongings and cleaning out his office. I agree with Nate about coaching decisions this weekend. Perhaps there's another type of H1N1 virus that attacks the brains of NFL coaches. the Hut one, hut one virus.

**thesteve** · 11-16-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bowstaff981

I'm just going to go ahead and say it. What the heck was Belichick thinking?

A lot of Pats apologists are saying that Peyton is the best 4th quarter QB of all time so to punt the ball to him with 2 minutes left when you're only up by 6 is a death sentence, but IMO it's better to make him march 60+ yards for the score than 30 yards. I thought the message Bill sent out last night was, "I don't trust my defense against the Colts with the game on the line."

**RK_lover** · 11-16-2009, 01:17 PM

Man, lots of tight games this weekend...the Bengals are really showing that they have a solid defense to complement Palmer, although the loss of Benson would really hurt them...the Titans are finally back to winning...I was pretty shocked by the Packers-Cowboys game, I figured it would be much more high-scoring (and I expected the Cowboys to win)...and then of course last night's game...that was one of the better games I've seen in a long time, at least the second half...and personally I don't know whether the fourth down call was more "I don't trust the defense" or "I have Tom Brady"...but wow, that was a great comeback.

...and did the Saints seriously almost lose to the Rams, and the Broncos fell to the Redskins?

**tmlfan123** · 11-16-2009, 01:56 PM

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...and did the Saints seriously almost lose to the Rams, and the Broncos fell to the Redskins?

As you can see, I'm taking it rather well.

The Broncos now basically have to win against the Chargers.

penguinofwar · 11-16-2009, 02:46 PM

Yeah, I'm still a little dumbfounded by Belicheks call as everyone is. Maybe if their field position was a little better, I might not consider it as bad of a call, but on their own thirty? Gutsy. Anyways, I know a lot of people who are ripping on Belichek for it, and like, hes won 3 (should have won 4) Super Bowls, so I'm not sure how you question his legitamacy. Anyways, it was a bad call, most coaches make pretty bad calls here or there, this one just so happened to cost him a game.

TunerSteve · 11-16-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thesteve

A lot of Pats apologists are saying that Peyton is the best 4th quarter QB of all time so to punt the ball to him with 2 minutes left when you're only up by 6 is a death sentence, but IMO it's better to make him march 60+ yards for the score than 30 yards. I thought the message Bill sent out last night was, "I don't trust my defense against the Colts with the game on the line."

I suppose after giving it more thought, Bill thought his offense gaining 2 yards against the Colts defense, was better odds than his defense against Manning at home. I certainly think he would pick up 2 yards, and salt away the game. At any rate, I have a feeling they may meet again in the playoffs, and if things hold true, it will be back in Indy once again!

TunerSteve · 11-16-2009, 04:15 PM

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As you can see, I'm taking it rather well.

The Broncos now basically have to win against the Chargers.

While I don't think the parity in the league is as apparent as usual, there are still games that remind you that these are all professionals, and worthy opponents. Dallas had to go OT to get Kansas City as well. Usually there are teams that finish 8-8, that could very easily be 10-6. The old axiom "on any given Sunday' still holds true.

**tmlfan123** · 11-17-2009, 08:37 AM

I feel bad for Brady Quinn. He spends most of the game being horrible, then when he finally hits a couple of guys with passes, they drop them right into Baltimore's hands.

**RK_lover** · 11-17-2009, 08:49 AM

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I feel bad for Brady Quinn. He spends most of the game being horrible, then when he finally hits a couple of guys with passes, they drop them right into Baltimore's hands.

I didn't see Quinn really being horrible, I saw atrocious playcalling...maybe the Browns coaching staff got together before the game and said "Hey guys...let's see how many bubble screens we can call in the same game!"...although his "hail mary" throws at the end were pretty terrible =/

**Fandrew** · 11-17-2009, 09:35 AM

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I didn't see Quinn really being horrible, I saw atrocious playcalling...maybe the Browns coaching staff got together before the game and said "Hey guys...let's see how many bubble screens we can call in the same game!"...although his "hail mary" throws at the end were pretty terrible =/

Until Brady Quinn gets to work with a coach or offensive coordinator who has a reputation as a Quaterback tutor, he will continue to be seen as a lousy quarterback. Look at how much Drew Brees improved under Sean Payton, or Phillip Rivers under Norv Turner. Brady Quinn might still be a good quarterback someday, but he's gonna need a different coaching staff.

S.B.Nichols · 11-17-2009, 10:23 AM

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Until Brady Quinn gets to work with a coach or offensive coordinator who has a reputation as a Quaterback tutor, he will continue to be seen as a lousy quarterback.

It seems like the whole team is in the same boat. At the NFL level, there really aren't any bad players....there is talent there, they just don't have the coaching staff to put it all together. Confusion is everywhere. Example: on the first Baltimore score (after keeping Baltimore scoreless for the first half) they only had 10 players on the field. It's just silly. The coach should have called a time out.

Nate · 11-17-2009, 12:20 PM

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At the NFL level, there really aren't any bad players....there is talent there, they just don't have the coaching staff to put it all together.

But might you also say, just as fairly, that "at the NFL level, there really aren't any bad coaches."

**Fandrew** · 11-17-2009, 12:29 PM

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But might you also say, just as fairly, that "at the NFL level, there really aren't any bad coaches."

True, but you could say that several GOOD coordinators are bad Head Coaches.

penguinofwar · 11-17-2009, 04:00 PM

Watching the Browns last night..I thought I was watching the Lions for a litle while.

Except the Lions are never on MNF