Muscle or Import?

What5647 · 08-22-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Mullet

Like I said..... in a real-world situation, the stats of the car matter little. It's all about who has the huevos to hit the brakes later than the next guy.... Mika Häkkinen in a Miata would make most everyone else look silly, no matter what they were driving.

Well...not always. I have a tendency to hit the brakes too late, and plow through the corner. (My car is extremely tight.) I'm having to force myself to start braking earlier as a result.

**scared2mosh** · 08-22-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Mullet

Ken Block is a stunt driver who competes in the watered-down version of rally....

He is still fun to watch.

I can't believe no one has mentioned the Camaro... is there a comparable import?

mulletman · 08-22-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by What5647

Well...not always. I have a tendency to hit the brakes too late, and plow through the corner. (My car is extremely tight.) I'm having to force myself to start braking earlier as a result.

Well.... there's a difference between braking as late as is physically possible... and braking too late.

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Originally Posted by scared2mosh

He is still fun to watch.

I can't believe no one has mentioned the Camaro... is there a comparable import?

Yeah, it's fun to watch.

Camaro? Comparable import? I dunno..... Supra?

**scared2mosh** · 08-22-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Mullet

Camaro? Comparable import? I dunno..... Supra?

I suppose, but the Camaro is so much more BA it isn't funny.

mulletman · 08-22-2009, 11:27 PM

I think the new Camaro is super ugly..... And it's not because I hate Camaros. I love the '67-'69 versions...

*flamesuit*

**thesteve** · 08-23-2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Mullet

I think the new Camaro is super ugly..... And it's not because I hate Camaros. I love the '67-'69 versions...

*flamesuit*

It's definitely got a look to it. It makes me think of what would happen if the the current Ford Mustang and the current Dodge Charger were merged...something the current Camaro doesn't want to look like, IMO. I agree with you about the older Camaros though, totally awesome.

What5647 · 08-23-2009, 01:05 PM

Yeah, not a huge fan of the looks of the new Camaro either. Head on it looks find, from any other angle, meh. IMO the new Challenger kills it and the Mustang in the looks department.

el cabong · 08-23-2009, 01:27 PM

Some Supras are pretty badass themselves.....

And the new Camaro and the 2010 Mustangs are butt ugly. And this coming from someone who has owned five mustangs. The tail end of the Mustang is just horrible looking in my opinion.

mattslope · 08-23-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by scared2mosh

What would you classify them as then???

They are sports cars.

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Originally Posted by thesteve

I've always thought of the 'Vette (esp. the Stingray) as a sports car.

They are sports cars.

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Originally Posted by scared2mosh

I suppose...

well then this thread need a name edit.

No suppose about it. Muscle cars =/= Sports cars. Imports =/= Asian.

We seem to forget that.

**redbaron** · 08-23-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Mullet

Ken Block is a stunt driver who competes in the watered-down version of rally....

Rally America may not have the sponsorship money or the fame/prestige of WRC, but it is no watered down version

If you think so, it's because you haven't seen it up close or been involved with the people racing, crewing & co-driving in it.

mulletman · 08-23-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabid Mint

Rally America may not have the sponsorship money or the fame/prestige of WRC, but it is no watered down version

If you think so, it's because you haven't seen it up close or been involved with the people racing, crewing & co-driving in it.

Only because WRC has only become more and more watered-down throughout the years. Remember the old Group B cars? And seeing a motorsport up close is fairly irrelevant. Most motorsports are not seen up close by most people.

**scared2mosh** · 08-23-2009, 09:20 PM

I hope God doesn't smite this forum for it's deslike of the Camaro...

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Originally Posted by mattslope

No suppose about it. Muscle cars =/= Sports cars. Imports =/= Asian.

We seem to forget that.

mmmk. I still think the thread should be "Muscle, Import, or Sport?"

just sayin

What5647 · 08-23-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Phantom Mullet

Only because WRC has only become more and more watered-down throughout the years. Remember the old Group B cars? And seeing a motorsport up close is fairly irrelevant. Most motorsports are not seen up close by most people.

True, most people don't show up to watch events in person. However, I hold you have to participate in a motorsport event to really understand where the sport is/where it's going. I also hold that auto racing is not primarily a spectator sport. I certainly watch NASCAR and F1 racing in a very different light after a few A/X meets, and drag racing as well. Once you've had a really toned-down form of been there-done that, races kinda have new meaning.

Back on topic...

The title is fine, but I think it needs a little clarification. A sports car can be a muscle car-if you say a muscle car is a relatively cheap car with a huge engine. A Corvette falls into that category, but it's also a sports car. IMO, a car can be both.

Just looking at the title, I'd assume the thread was about domestic muscle vs. import "tuner" cars in drag racing. To which I'd say muscle, hands down. There is absolutely no replacement for displacement.

mulletman · 08-23-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by What5647

There is absolutely no replacement for displacement.

.... Except for forced induction, lack of weight, correctly set-up suspension, tires, driver skill, etc....

el cabong · 08-23-2009, 10:44 PM

Application is everything. I'd like to see a boosted 4 cylinder compete with a top fuel car in the quarter.....

On the same hand, any regular car would beat a top fuel out on any other track.