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Old 08-29-2009, 09:35 AM   #151
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Indeed...I suspect what you experienced would be like if you went to an instrument store that was a Fender dealer and was met with a bad owner, then holding it against Fender since they were sold at the store.
We went to every Saturn Dealership in the Metro Detroit Area... apparently none of the local Saturn dealerships' salespeople are on comission (sp?)... We couldn't get them to sell us a car. It was horrible.

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Old 08-29-2009, 10:30 AM   #152
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I don't really like Saturn... the sales people never want to actually help you. It's a shame Pontiac is going out though... they make great cars
Wait, since when does Pontiac make great cars? There's the Solstice... and...?
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Wait, since when does Pontiac make great cars? There's the Solstice... and...?
The G8/Solstice are awesome & the Vibe/G5/G6 are kinda cool... their cars are reliable and their dealerships are nice (at least local ones are)

I like them better than Saturn by a LOT
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Old 08-29-2009, 11:27 AM   #154
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The Vibe? Really? And the G6 is the worst new car I've ever driven. Ever.

Though I have heard great things about the G8.
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The Vibe? Really? And the G6 is the worst new car I've ever driven. Ever.

Though I have heard great things about the G8.
I have seen some pretty cool modded Vibes... and the V6 G6 is alright... the Cobalt/G5 is better though.

The G8 is amazing... I REALLY hope that they bring it over to Chevy and call it a Chevelle when Pontiac goes out.
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I was going to say, wait! What about the G8? Supposedly the GXP model is a M3 killer.

The G8 and the Solstice were basically the only thing Pontiac had going for it IMO.

Scared, GM was going to do that, then they canned that deal. Methinks Government Motors new owners didn't like the idea of a car that powerful living on.
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The G8 is nowhere near M3 class.... it's more of a 5-series competitor.
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And nobody mentioned the GTO, which is a really good car. But the Vibe? Cobalt? G6? Those are not great cars.
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And nobody mentioned the GTO, which is a really good car. But the Vibe? Cobalt? G6? Those are not great cars.
I'm pretty sure the GTO = G8... otherwise they wouldn't consider rebadging it as a Chevelle.
It's either that or
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No I think he's talking about the modern GTOs. Pontiac's other Holden car, which was canned a while ago.
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No I think he's talking about the modern GTOs. Pontiac's other Holden car, which was canned a while ago.
Ahhh

were those 2 or 4 door?

They should bring Holden to the USA.
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I saw a GTO today, I mistook it for an older Mustang, it was shmexy.
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I saw a GTO today, I mistook it for an older Mustang, it was shmexy.
And they had the option for a 6.0. Lovely exhaust note.
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And they had the option for a 6.0. Lovely exhaust note.
What? a Mustang 6.0?
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What? a Mustang 6.0?
No. The GTO had the option for a 6.0. Really a shame they did not do better in the US.
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