[Bryan]

'czar' can be used as a title that is neither an insult or compliment. That's probably what Obama means when he uses the term.

However, when Nolidad and his neo-con buddies use the term they use it as an insult. Czar is meant to tie someone to Communism (which is wrong anyway because it was the Czar that was replaced by Communism). You'll see Nolidad use the term comrades or commissar because he seeks to discredit Obama and his efforts by implying he is a communist. (Communism in and of itself is not a bad thing.) You see, Nolidad and his Republican buddies use insults to discredit him instead of just criticizing his policies. (Not that Democrats are innocent; they used the same technique against Bush.) That seems to be the only way they can win. And defeating Obama is what is most important to them (it has been admitted by Republican leaders).

[nolidad]

Originally Posted by Bryan

'czar' can be used as a title that is neither an insult or compliment. That's probably what Obama means when he uses the term.

However, when Nolidad and his neo-con buddies use the term they use it as an insult. Czar is meant to tie someone to Communism (which is wrong anyway because it was the Czar that was replaced by Communism). You'll see Nolidad use the term comrades or commissar because he seeks to discredit Obama and his efforts by implying he is a communist. (Communism in and of itself is not a bad thing.) You see, Nolidad and his Republican buddies use insults to discredit him instead of just criticizing his policies. (Not that Democrats are innocent; they used the same technique against Bush.) That seems to be the only way they can win. And defeating Obama is what is most important to them (it has been admitted by Republican leaders).

Well you are wrong again my hedonist critic. Obama callls them czars I will also. Bush called his unconformed folks czars as well and I was against it then as well. You see I am a registered INDEPENDENT.

And I am against these czars POLICIES!!

Van Jones is a communist in capitalist clothing. He did not convertt from communism He only changed tactics as he was advised to do so by Ella Baker of the Ella Baker foundation He wet to after folding STORM. He is still definitely into redistributing th ewealth. He said as much in MArch of this year at the Powershift 09 conference.

Mark Lloyd Obamas FCC diversity czar praises Chavez revolution and has declared the American Media the enemy of the people. He alsop wants to tax private radio 100% of their operating budgets to fund minority stations and NPR.

Holdren Obamas scince advisor- beleives it may be necessary for the US Govt to institute limits on how many children a woman could have (including fines and imprisonmnet) and forced abortions.

Cass Sunstein is the most dangerous. As the regulatory czar He wants to give the Fed the power to shut down the internet.

None of these people nor the other 33 czars were confirmed by congress and most not even vetted by the FBI!!!!

So you see I am agqains tthese people because they want to take America down the socialist road . Obama on Jan 15 th told an audience that he was 5 days away from radically transforming America-- Hes honest- he is doing it- And if he gets his way-- even you my hedonist friend will regret it.

He has even enlisted the Natl. Endowmwnt of the Arts to produce propagansda for him.

Aug. 10th the White House held a conference call with the NEA and 75 selected artists in varied venues to come together to create art to promote Obamas agenda.

This is collusion, and if fed funds from the NEA is used that is an illegal use of funds for a sectarian purpose. If Bush called on artists to work together to push his agenda- you know Commisars Pelosi and Reid would have convened impeachment hearings- and rightfully so! So please I don't name call these folks-- they are president declared czars.

Sigh... If he's talking about maintaining a private sector, he is not a communist. It's really that simple. You can either believe Glenn Beck or believe Marx, the author of The Communist Manfiesto. Your choice, but I'd prefer the source rather than someone who was suspended for calling the president a racist.

sigh....sigh.... I know ytou love deriding Beck and any one who is a political or spiritual conservative-- but Van JOnes changed tactics not ideology. You can nit pick how much of a communist he is-- but he even this March showed he stillis nothing more than a self proclaimed communnist in capitalist clothing.

Because that's the title that communist Ronald Reagan called him when he appointed a drug czar in 1982... So take it up with Ronnie.

So does this mean that people will stop whining about teh word czar????????????
What they are trying to do to America is the more important issue-- and that is destroy this country and make it a 3rd world economy.

Wow. Can you really get any more wrong than this? You just Godwin-ed.

Well have no clue what "Godwin-ed" is But in case you forgot (which I know you didn't) Nazi is short for national SOCIALIST party socialism is not a conservative but liberral or progressive moniker.

Cite it. Your previous 'citation' of a bizarre blog post of no evidence and innuendo didn't do the work you claimed it was going to do.

Obama’s Czar Van Jones-Many Roads Lead to Cuba, Communism Romanticpoet’s Weblog

Well you should click on th ebold blue letterinig ( I know you know what they are there for) and you can get right to words from th ehorses mouth.

Also hold you r nose and go to Glenn Becks web site and you can watch video of Jones speaking for himself.

But another site citing Van JOnes and his associates:

Only in America: A Communist Czar

New Zeal: Obama File 83 Obama's Man Van Jones-Many Roads Lead to Cuba, Communism

Glenn Beck Closing in on Van Jones | Editorial

To qoute a former president..."If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck" Van Jones still looks, walks, and quacks like the Marxist he declaredhimself to be.

[nolidad]

the hypocrisy of the left never ceases to amaze me!!! Commisar Obama is dead set against drilling for oil herein America or mining new coal or even drilling for the natural gas reserves, He wants cap and tyrade and said himself that his cap and trade policy would neccesarily cause utility rates to skyrocket but yet He sent $2,000,000,000 to Brazil to help them drill for oil!!!! Of course having his buddy George Soros being a big share holder of Brazil oil is just a mere coincidence.

InterMedia Outdoors Forums: Politics: obama okays offshore oil drilling and gives 2 billion for exploration

Also Obamas buddy Chavez had this to say about Comrade Obama:

Venezuela Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing

[thesteve]

Don't turn around (oh oh) der kommissar's in town (oh oh)?

[Ridley's Own]

Originally Posted by Nolidad

But in case you forgot (which I know you didn't) Nazi is short for national SOCIALIST party socialism is not a conservative but liberral or progressive moniker.

What? Have you lost all sense of proportion, all sense of morality or humanity? The socialists that you have so cavalierly lumped together with Hitler... The ones that were the only ones in the whole of the German Reichstag to vote against the Enabling Act, the ones that had the courage, the fortitude, the balls to continue organizing after the banning of all other political parties in the Reich. The ones beaten in the street by stormtrooper thugs. The ones tortured by the Gestapo. The ones arrested and sent to Dachau or Sachenhausen or any of the myriad of hellish prisons. The ones whose heads were ripped from their bodies with piano wire hung from meathooks after the ’44 coup attempt. The Jewish socialists that were gassed and incinerated at Auschwitz...

You, honestly, with all the Christian morality you can summon... You want to put those dead souls, those martyrs for democracy, you want to put them in the same boat as their murderer?

You want to put Barak Obama in the same boat? The same boat that is littered with the skulls of children, with the ashes of 12 million people slaughtered in the Nazi abbotoirs across Europe? You want to put our President in that boat? The unions, the progressive left... You are putting them in that category?

☺☺☺☺. You.

I’ve stood in the crematoria at Dachau. I’ve seen the urn that holds over a million people. I have met and cried with a survivor who witnessed the horrors you so blithely use for political fodder. You look them in the eyes, and you minimize their suffering, their loss, their grief, their anger, their cries for justice, and you make the comparison you are unsuccessfully attempting to smear the left with. Your appropriation of their memories to score cheap, misinformed political points is an obscenity. It is disgusting, and it is immoral. You have taken the largest scene of industrialized murder and cheapend it. You and Beck and Limbaugh and the rest of the right-wing nutcases have taken their tombstones and turned it into pavement.

How dare you. You have crossed a line that is simply unforgiveable. I refuse to stand by and allow, to stand silent and therefore be complicit, the murder of 12 million people to be reduced to drive-by political ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺. The God I serve, the Christ that rose from the grave, simply will not allow this.

You are not a martyr. Your freedom is not threatened by people who believe they are racially superior to you. Your freedom, your life is not at risk because you believe that following Christ is more important than following the leader. Your freedom, your life is not at risk because you refuse to believe the lies of a government that is appropriating totalitarian power. Your freedom, your life is not at risk because you oppose euthanasia or eugenics. Your freedom, your life is not at risk because you are engaged in opposition to the gov’t. So stop acting like it is. You, and Beck and Limbaugh are in no way shape or form analogous to the heroes of the German resistance, the Adm. Canaris’, the Bonhoeffers, the Schindlers, the Wallenbergs, the Bp. Bells, the Scholls. Neither you nor I are fit to lick the bottom of their shoes. And yet, you would make the victims the same as the victimizers.

Disgusting.

The time for lessons on political theory, lessons on basic history, lessons on basic meaning of words is over. Either you are intentionally doing this, you are mentally disturbed, or you are mentally disabled. I can offer no other explanation for the repeated correction, the repeated calls to reality that others (even those that agree with you!) and I have asked of you. It would be, at this point, the gracious thing to simply assume you are mentally disabled. But I suspect you are not. I suspect this is intentional sacraIige and intentional obscenity.

And it’s because of the intentional nature of the offense that I expect an apology. Not to me, but to the survivors. To the jews, the gypsies, the homosexuals, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Poles, the Hungarians, the Romanians, the political prisoners, and yes, even the evil socialists for your obscenity. And repentance and forgiveness from God, for making an idol out of your own freedom and your own sense what you think you’re entitled to.

Those of you keeping score at home... This is where the rightwing is going. It is going nowhere but down, because it cannot stand on anything other than vileness at this point. It ahs lost an argument, so it reverts to digging up murdered bones and hurling them at their opponents. Have nothing to do with it. Call it out. Demand a response and demand repentance.

In the name of God, someone stop this!

[Fandrew]

Enough.

Invoking reserve mod powers via Godwin's Law, as well as personal disdain for this thread, it is closed.