[Art]

Originally Posted by luvinjesus

I didn't say this year. But historically when PAC 10 teams have been rated, excluding USC, those teams have gone down in a huge blaze and ended up playing really crappy bowl games, some not even making a bowl game after being ranked. Such as UCLA, Oregon, Oregon State... All I'm saying is if Art is going to bash the Big 10 for being overrated in the past, then he needs to definitely look in the college football mirror and realize all he is hiding behind is USC being the dominate team in the PAC 10.

Not even worth answering. Honestly.

[Iceman-bass14]

Originally Posted by luvinjesus

I have a problem with people who have big attitudes, who have absolutely no reason to. UM just came off of the worst season they've had in forever. Tate has no reason to act like a prick on national television. However, Barkley comes from a team that has been good for the past five+years consistently. And USC was ranked #3. What was Notre Dame? 20? And that was too giving anyway. Notre Dame was overrated like always. So yeah, kudos to Forcier for beating up on a crappy team. Doesn't really prove anything except you can beat teams that are bad. I have no problem with Barkley's comments. He beat a top ten 10, came back to do it, and did it on the road, not home. Which is a far bigger achievement. than Tate's. I guarantee if Um and USC met tonight, UM would have lost by a lot more than OSU did. A LOT more. Tate is in no way even close to Barkley's level of talent.

Ok,no matter what UM did last year they still have one of the best programs ever in NCAA football history.And Tate wasnt on that team,so for now in his career he is 2-0 and just beat another extremely storied program.Seriously?He needs to not be excited about that?Besides the fact that Pryor doesnt come off as the most humble of guys and I doubt he'd have been acting much different if OSU had come back to beat USC.

[gg7]

Originally Posted by JayCarrFan

Tennessee lost to UCLA:

That one did not surprise me at all. I think, so far, TN looks better this year than last. Last year they were perhaps the worst team in the SEC though, so that isn't saying a lot.

Looks like I'll be stuck wearing an Auburn hoodie around Christmas.

Sorry man. That is tragic.
Yeah, your team is improving at least. From what I've seen, this coaching staff is pretty good.

USC vs. OSU:
That game was a lot closer than I expected. I thought USC would beat them by a couple of touchdowns at least. I was impressed by USC's young QB on that last drive, as I'm sure many others were. That was solid. Going into this game, I thought OSU was probably overrated, now I'm not sure if USC is overrated...or maybe they actually were where they should be. hmm..

GA vs. USC (the other USC, you know South Carolina) was also a very good game. SC just might be one of the most frustrating teams to watch though. They have talent, they get close so often, but just can't seem to seal the deal a lot of the time. Spurrier has the best QB he's had at SC perhaps though...if the kid keeps improving as much as he has over the past year. They should be able to compete with everyone they play.

FL, TX, AL....nothing unexpected there...unless you argue that FIU being within 6 points of Bama at halftime was unexpected...I've been following them long enough to not be surprised by that. Their last national championship season even looked a lot like that. The freshman RB Trent Richardson got to show his stuff though. I've been looking forward to seeing this guy play. He'll be a force to be reckoned with. Bama actually has a QB who can pass well this year. Yay. Now if only Julio Jones can have a speedy recovery...and Ingram.

Florida's speed is pretty amazing to watch.

How about FSU and Jacksonville State? ha. FSU was losing with just a couple of minutes left then ended up pulling it out by 10.

[Iceman-bass14]

Originally Posted by gg7

GA vs. USC (the other USC, you know South Carolina) was also a very good game. SC just might be one of the most frustrating teams to watch though. They have talent, they get close so often, but just can't seem to seal the deal a lot of the time. Spurrier has the best QB he's had at SC perhaps though...if the kid keeps improving as much as he has over the past year. They should be able to compete with everyone they play.

The one thing I thought would be a high point for UGA coming into this season was their D.They lost a lot on offense and last week they did play Ok.State so I didnt take that into consideration.But giving up 37 to a USC team who's execution was off a good bit still is not a good sign.I really think UGA's D is overrated and is a big reason to be concerned.I still feel they need to get rid of Martinez if they expect to stop the option,but for now Im glad he's there,since we just switched to the triple option!

Florida's speed is pretty amazing to watch.

Agreed.

How about FSU and Jacksonville State? ha. FSU was losing with just a couple of minutes left then ended up pulling it out by 10.

Overrated and should definitely fall out of the rankings.

[gg7]

Originally Posted by Iceman-bass14

The one thing I thought would be a high point for UGA coming into this season was their D.They lost a lot on offense and last week they did play Ok.State so I didnt take that into consideration.But giving up 37 to a USC team who's execution was off a good bit still is not a good sign.I really think UGA's D is overrated and is a big reason to be concerned.I still feel they need to get rid of Martinez if they expect to stop the option,but for now Im glad he's there,since we just switched to the triple option!

I didn't really know much about their D coming in this season, I just knew what they lost on offense...namely Stafford (not to take away from Moreno though). About the only team that seems to consistently replace great QB's is USC (Trojans). I have to wonder how much of that is coaching. It's just unreal.
I'm not sure what to think about the OK State vs. GA game last week, considering what happened in their games yesterday.

[penguinofwar]

Originally Posted by luvinjesus

I have a problem with people who have big attitudes, who have absolutely no reason to. UM just came off of the worst season they've had in forever. Tate has no reason to act like a prick on national television. However, Barkley comes from a team that has been good for the past five+years consistently. And USC was ranked #3. What was Notre Dame? 20? And that was too giving anyway. Notre Dame was overrated like always. So yeah, kudos to Forcier for beating up on a crappy team. Doesn't really prove anything except you can beat teams that are bad. I have no problem with Barkley's comments. He beat a top ten 10, came back to do it, and did it on the road, not home. Which is a far bigger achievement. than Tate's. I guarantee if Um and USC met tonight, UM would have lost by a lot more than OSU did. A LOT more. Tate is in no way even close to Barkley's level of talent.

Like honestly? Are you serious? This has nothing to do with previous win/losses. Whether or not Notre Dame is overrated doesn't take anything away from the fact that its a big win. Actually, to be quite honest, I think the fact that Michigan was terrible last year makes this an even bigger win. Really, we sucked last year! So its awesome that we won!

Who cares? This has nothing to do with how Michigan would match up against USC compared to how OSU did! This is so off topic; you're acting like the fact that Michigan won and "Tate Forcier getting excited after a pretty incredible game" is a total shot to OSU and that all of a sudden Michigan is way better than OSU because they beat their rival and OSU lost. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but this whole topic is completely irrational. There is no way you can get mad at an 18 year old kid for leading his football team to a great win against there #2 rival on national T.V, and later getting pretty giddy about it. End of story.

[Art]

I read Forcier's quotes, and I've seen way, way worse. He was excited for a big win. That's all.

[luvinjesus]

Originally Posted by Art

I read Forcier's quotes, and I've seen way, way worse. He was excited for a big win. That's all.

It was more about how he said it than what he actually said. It really has nothing to do with Ohio State, because I'm still 100% positive that Ohio State is better than Michigan. And to be honest, I don't like Pryor's attitude. He refused to take any responsibility for OSU's loss last night, and he is at least partly responsible for them losing. I don't like any player that acts like a tool on national tv, which Forcier did, as did Pryor in the media last night and this morning.

[luvinjesus]

Week 3 Rankings

1 Florida (56) 2-0 1491
2 Texas (1) 2-0 1404
3 USC (1) 2-0 1396
4 Alabama (2) 2-0 1328
5 Mississippi 1-0 1145
5 Penn State 2-0 1145
7 Brigham Young 2-0 1122
8 California 2-0 1058
9 LSU 2-0 951
10 Boise State 2-0 945
11 Ohio State 1-1 840
12 Oklahoma 1-1 835
13 Virginia Tech 1-1 749
14 Georgia Tech 2-0 683
15 TCU 1-0 609
16 Oklahoma State 1-1 445
17 Cincinnati 2-0 407
18 Utah 2-0 405
19 Nebraska 2-0 365
20 Miami (FL) 1-0 364
21 Houston 2-0 341
22 Kansas 2-0 271
23 Georgia 1-1 260
24 North Carolina 2-0 250
25 Michigan 2-0 169

[jthomas1600]

What?!?!? It's almost 10pm and this is the first college football post? OK, I'm going to finish watching Texas vs. Texas Tech before I have much to say, but #3 and #7 lost so far.

[Art]

Very shocked that USC lost to Washington, but this is life in the Pac 10.

Florida State and Miami are both becoming national powers again.

Cal won. Jahvid Best is amazing.

[penguinofwar]

Originally Posted by Art

Very shocked that USC lost to Washington, but this is life in the Pac 10.

YEAH!!!!

Florida State and Miami are both becoming national powers again.

I am happy about this. Go ACC.

Cal won. Jahvid Best is amazing.

5 td's. I can't remember the last guy I saw get 5 rushing touchdowns. Not that I don't like Cal, I actually sort of like them, but I wanted Minnesota to win that one. Anyways, it was a good game.


Anyways, Michigan won against a pretty bad MAC team, so, whatevs. We've already tied our last seasons win mark.

[penguinofwar]

Originally Posted by Art

Very shocked that USC lost to Washington, but this is life in the Pac 10.

YEAH!!!!

Florida State and Miami are both becoming national powers again.

I'm excited about this..I like the ACC. Florida State blasted BYU today.

Cal won. Jahvid Best is amazing.

5 td's. I can't remember the last guy I saw get 5 rushing touchdowns. Not that I don't like Cal, I actually sort of like them, but I wanted Minnesota to win that one. Anyways, it was a good game.


Anyways, Michigan won against a pretty bad MAC team, so, whatevs. We've already tied our last seasons win mark.


Considering everything else that happened, good day of college football overrall..

[gg7]

I don't particularly like Miami, but they definitely look like a team that should be in the top 10 or even 5 right now. I am more impressed with their QB every time I see him....and then to see what FSU did today. ha. That makes Miami look even better.
I'm looking forward to seeing how they do against VT next week. VT played very close with Bama. Then they play OK. They start off by playing four top 25 teams, then later in the season get NC, who is currently another top 25 team...what a schedule.
The only tougher schedule than that would probably come out of the SEC from someone like Arkansas, who will end up playing 3 top 5 teams + a top 10 team + one more top 25 team. Yikes. There might be a comparable SEC schedule to that one though. I'm not positive.

[Art]

I usually dislike the ACC on principal alone, and the football there has been pretty horrific the last few years. I used to really dig MIami, and I was into their rivalry with Florida State, so it is really fun for me to see those two thriving.