08-05-2009, 12:37 PM
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#16 | | Legen, wait for it...
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Originally Posted by thesteve I didn't realize we were talking $300 CAD here. That's definitely a great price. | Wow, what is that like 10 dollars in monopoly money? Quote:
Originally Posted by Skeeter I like the drive channel on my Classic 30 just fine for punk rock. | Finding enough drive for punk rock is about as hard as finding salt in the ocean.
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08-05-2009, 12:48 PM
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#17 | | The People's Super Moderator
Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Aldergrove, BC, Canada Posts: 15,789
| It all depends on what you're looking for. The Classic 30 is exactly what I need for what I want to play. |
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08-05-2009, 12:58 PM
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#18 | | Registered User | I guess that's probably because my Classic 30 has different tubes. Because I've never been able to get much drive out of it. Sometimes I can't even tell the difference between the channels.
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08-05-2009, 01:38 PM
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#19 | | Algebraic! | Quote:
Originally Posted by AudioAUnderdog I guess that's probably because my Classic 30 has different tubes. Because I've never been able to get much drive out of it. Sometimes I can't even tell the difference between the channels. | Hmm...that doesn't sound normal at all. What tubes are in your amp? It sounds like some sort of low-gain modification was done or that low-gain tubes were installed. The drive channel on the C30 should definitely be noticeably different from the clean channel, especially as you start to manipulate the drive knob. |
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08-05-2009, 01:43 PM
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#20 | | is married.
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Originally Posted by thesteve Hmm...that doesn't sound normal at all. What tubes are in your amp? It sounds like some sort of low-gain modification was done or that low-gain tubes were installed. The drive channel on the C30 should definitely be noticeably different from the clean channel, especially as you start to manipulate the drive knob. | Well, if the boost channel is on, not so much.
I notice a HUGE difference between the two channels with the boost channel off.
On a side note, Do you guys think it'd be easy to mod a footswitch for the boost channel? I'd love to have the boost channel footswitchable for lead tones. That would allow me to only use a delay pedal at church, and rely on nothing else but the amp for all my other tones. That would be AWESOME. |
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08-05-2009, 03:30 PM
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#21 | | The People's Super Moderator
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| Even with the boost switch off, the drive channel should definitely sound a lot different than the clean channel. That's definitely not normal if they're nearly indistinguishable...
I definitely wish I had a footswitch for the boost. I was disappointed that the footswitch I bought only changes the channel and turns the reverb on and off. Of course, now that I have the SBN Trinity, I don't really need the boost on the Classic 30. |
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08-05-2009, 08:37 PM
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#22 | | I'm on a horse. Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Seattle, WA. Posts: 26,294
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Originally Posted by dtaylorl No, but I do want to be able to get it to break up. What you said in that post makes a lot of sense. If it sounds like the Behringer I have right now in the bed room thats fine, but it needs to sound good for gigs. So long as its not so loud I can't handle it and I can still get it to break up. | The thing is, I can hardly get a 6 watt, 1x8 Fender Champ to get real power tube saturation in my room without it being loud enough to be heard from the other end of my house quite clearly. Of course, I'll pump that sucker when I want to, no problem, but it isn't a "quiet" amp. |
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08-05-2009, 09:26 PM
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#23 | | Registered User | Quote:
Originally Posted by thesteve Hmm...that doesn't sound normal at all. What tubes are in your amp? It sounds like some sort of low-gain modification was done or that low-gain tubes were installed. The drive channel on the C30 should definitely be noticeably different from the clean channel, especially as you start to manipulate the drive knob. | JJ tubes, I don't know anything more specific than that. Would they have some sort of model number printed on them? If they do than I could check.
You can tell the difference between the channels, but only at high volumes with the drive cranked. But the distortion is almost non-existent. When I turn on the boost it just sounds really boomy and bassy (and still very clean) so I never use the boost.
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08-08-2009, 11:49 AM
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#24 | | Now with Banstick™ Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Nashville Posts: 8,143
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Originally Posted by Skeeter Even with the boost switch off, the drive channel should definitely sound a lot different than the clean channel. That's definitely not normal if they're nearly indistinguishable...
I definitely wish I had a footswitch for the boost. I was disappointed that the footswitch I bought only changes the channel and turns the reverb on and off. Of course, now that I have the SBN Trinity, I don't really need the boost on the Classic 30. | How do you like the Classic 30 + the Trinity? I got to use the combo a week or two ago and loved it. Definitely considering it for an amp purchase eventually... |
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08-08-2009, 12:45 PM
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#25 | | Pearl plays her guitar
Joined: May 2004 Location: Maple Valley, WA Posts: 4,398
| A clean boost is a must for everyone who wants to give their amp that "extra" when you crank up the solo. |
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08-09-2009, 07:51 PM
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#26 | | The People's Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by Gustin How do you like the Classic 30 + the Trinity? I got to use the combo a week or two ago and loved it. Definitely considering it for an amp purchase eventually... | I definitely like it. I'm a bit torn between the Trinity distortion and the amp distortion though. I like both. The Overdrive and Boost on the Trinity are fantastic with the Classic 30. |
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08-12-2009, 05:01 PM
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#27 | | Saved Sinner
Joined: Aug 2006 Location: Westminster CA Posts: 76
| you can also do the old gain mod on it by bridging the reverb ins and outs with a cord. Lots more gain. The reverb driver uses the 4558 chip thats in the Super Overdirve and the Tube Screamer etc and a host of other good pedals. |
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09-07-2009, 09:30 PM
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#28 | | Registered User
Joined: Mar 2006 Location: Marietta GA Posts: 161
| I actually have a Classic 30 that I'm looking to sell. I bought a Vox AC15 with the Celestion Blue speaker in it which has become my main gigging amp. My C30 has a few upgrades, An Avatar speaker upgrade, tube tamer, tube guard, amp cover and footswitch. I also have one of Major Tom's attenuators. They are great amps and it can get really loud. I used to play it in a loud Christian blues rock band and it would keep up with the best of 'em.
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09-08-2009, 01:43 AM
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#29 | | Registered User | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dbmaj7 I used to play it in a loud Christian blues rock band and it would keep up with the best of 'em. | As someone who's looking to start a Christian blues rock band sometime down the road, I'd be very, very interested to know more about yours. What songs did you play? Where did you gig at? If you could PM me, that would be great.
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09-08-2009, 08:12 AM
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#30 | | Registered User
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| I tried the Classic 30 Combo, and it sounded thin to me. It's probably because it has a small cab and open backed. My Fender HotRod Deluxe on the other hand, sounds very full but fender also uses a cab nearly big enough for 2x12's to house 1x12.
So I think I found an awesome combination that works really well. I run my Classic 30 Head through a Fender HotRod 1x12 extension cab. This extension cab actually sounds nothing like the HotRod Deluxe as it's intended to compliment it and add more low end to the sound. The cab is a closed back with a Celestion speaker in it. Anyone looking for a cab to run with a Classic 30 head or any sub 50 watt head (might be able to handle more, it's rated at 80 watts), I highly recommend Fender's HotRod Extension cab. They can be found really cheap because I guess not many people are buying them. I think I got mine new for $215. Total, my (bought new also) Classic 30 head and that cab cost less than the price of a new HotRod Deluxe.
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