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Unread 07-21-2009, 01:03 PM   #1
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Will guitars ever be weak to technology?

I'm rather bored at the time being, and my mind roams randomly so I thought and got curious.

With all the new technology ( iPod Touch's, Holographic phones and the sort ) will guitars, or guitar playing ever be forgotten? That new; well not so new anymore, Gibson guitar that auto tunes, got me thinking about this.

Any thoughts?

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Unread 07-21-2009, 01:32 PM   #2
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I'm rather bored at the time being, and my mind roams randomly so I thought and got curious.

With all the new technology ( iPod Touch's, Holographic phones and the sort ) will guitars, or guitar playing ever be forgotten? That new; well not so new anymore, Gibson guitar that auto tunes, got me thinking about this.

Any thoughts?
Not really, music is something that in my opinion expresses life. The keyboard and synth were supposed to do away with such primitive instruments... and well, they are still here.

The Robot guitar is a guitar with an extra feature. However, it in no way detracts from creativity. The technology for player pianos has been around for eons, but most people want to play a piano, not have a piano that plays itself.
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I'm sure that at some point the guitar will fade into obscurity to be replaced by another instrument. After all, how many people do you know that play the harpsichord?

That being said, I don't think that this time will come soon. The guitar is a great example of simplicity in design and as such I believe it will be in the limelight for quite some time.

And for what it's worth, the Gibson guitar tunes itself when you tell it to tune itself. you still have to know how to play the thing.
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Unread 07-21-2009, 03:48 PM   #4
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I thought it was automatically obsolete when Guitar Hero came out.
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Unread 07-21-2009, 03:54 PM   #5
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It might possibly fade out, but that will be so far into the future that I'll hopefully be dead by then. So who cares?
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Unread 07-21-2009, 04:04 PM   #6
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I thought it was automatically obsolete when Guitar Hero came out.
haha! so true. I got so sick of hearing "You're good at guitar, you'll be good at this!" or "You'll like this!"
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I'm rather bored at the time being, and my mind roams randomly so I thought and got curious.

With all the new technology ( iPod Touch's, Holographic phones and the sort ) will guitars, or guitar playing ever be forgotten? That new; well not so new anymore, Gibson guitar that auto tunes, got me thinking about this.

Any thoughts?
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Unread 07-21-2009, 06:19 PM   #8
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Unread 07-21-2009, 08:14 PM   #9
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I'm sure that at some point the guitar will fade into obscurity to be replaced by another instrument. After all, how many people do you know that play the harpsichord?
Still, the harpsichord was replaced by a very similar instrument: the piano. It sounds very different but from what I understand you play them almost exactly the same.

I think the guitar will last for a very long time, or at least get dominated by something similar. Even if keyboards had replaced pianos, I would still count the piano as not dead. People just play a different type.
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Unread 07-21-2009, 08:22 PM   #10
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Some sort of portable stringed instrument has been around since like the dawn of forever. So im sure some permutation of the guitar will be around till the end of forever.

I think the guitar will just continue to evolve. Lately there has been a surge in ERG and extended scale popularity with a great many bands adopting extended range, whether it be extra strings, extra frets or greater range tunings unsing intervals like fifths. Like the piano before it players are slowly expanding the instruments playable range. They are also making improvements to temperment like the earvana nut, different fret placements, and fanned scale. Then there are constant improvements to the electronics of the electric with hi-fi pickups like the lightwave, advanced pre-amps that can model, self tuning.. Then there are improvements in hardware like the use of carbon fiber, graphite nuts and saddles, locking tuners, and trem systems that dont have the drawbacks that many complain about.

However when and what improvements will take root in the near future is impossible to tell. Guitarist are a very stubborn and backward breed when it comes to improving the physics of the instrument. Many guitarist have the if it was good enough for grandpa, its good enough for me outlook when it comes to the instrument. Unlike our bass playing bretheren who regularly use many of the innovations that guitarist look down upon.
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Then there are constant improvements to the electronics of the electric with hi-fi pickups like the lightwave, advanced pre-amps that can model, self tuning.. Then there are improvements in hardware like the use of carbon fiber, graphite nuts and saddles, locking tuners, and trem systems that dont have the drawbacks that many complain about.
Fluff.

There are plenty of instruments that haven't changed much in hundreds of years.
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Fluff.

There are plenty of instruments that haven't changed much in hundreds of years.
Violin, for instance .
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Unread 07-22-2009, 08:52 AM   #14
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Seriously electric violins have been on the rise for solo violin artist. They may stay out of mass popularity because they still use fretless technology though. Which makes it harder to learn for average joe who doesnt have great ear intonation.
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Unread 07-22-2009, 09:24 AM   #15
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I don't think the problem the guitar will face is technology, but repertoire.

Instruments like the violin or piano (probably the two most popular / widespread instruments in the world) resist major changes / replacements because the repertoire of music that was built around them during their first couple hundred years was so strong and so well-documented. To play this music, you need the instruments, and as long as the music remains popular, so will the instruments.

Guitar, though at least as old of an instrument as the violin, doesn't have, for whatever reason, the same repertoire that its sister instrument does. Perhaps this is because, like most fretted instruments, the guitar and its ancestors are traditionally vocal accompaniment rather than solo performance instruments. Violin, on the other hand, is often a vocal replacement in many styles of music.

Probably part of the reason the violin repertoire is still around while almost nobody recognizes any early guitar music is that the guitar has changed much more rapidly than has the violin. The violin had its final tuning (5ths) long before its final shape (4 strings, 2 bouts), whereas the tuning and shape of the guitar are still changing. The modern version of the violin predates the guitar by at least a century and a half.

Guitar, being the accompanimental instrument that it is, could withstand these changes, since all the player needed to do was know how to form chords on the particular style of the day. This meant, however, that the repertoire of "guitar music" was probably pretty simple and easily lost in the shuffle, though there certainly exist some "performance" compositions for the guitar, like for any other instrument.

There are certain genres today--blues, some jazz, and [to some extent, at least the "prog" genre] metal--that are building up a repertoire of performance, non-vocal music for the guitar, but it's been too short of a time to see if it will hold up. Certainly arena rock and country music will not be enough to sustain the guitar indefinitely. You can get the same styles from a synthesizer (which many bands do).

Violin and piano, and especially violin, have a large repertoire, on the other hand, of both "popular" (for violin, let's say "folk", meaning old folk, Irish traditional, bluegrass, etc) and "classical" (composed for orchestral / chamber performance) that is already established and is still being added to. The instruments are no more versatile than guitar, but have remained unchanged longer because of this.

I think if you're interested in perpetuating the guitar as a performance instrument (which is what will keep it from being replaced by just another accompanimental instrument), you should be looking awfully hard into genres like blues and prog and see if there are ways that you can adapt them to the orchestral / chamber setting rather than the rock concert setting. The focus should be the music, not the performer.
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