NBA Offseason 2009

**thesteve** · 06-26-2009, 12:58 PM

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Anyone see Orlando's trade up? Not so sure I'm pleased with it. I now Carter is very good....but he's getting old, and they gave up Courtney Lee and Rafer Alston for him. Meh.

I'm sure Alston's performance in the playoffs boosted his trade value, and it seems like Orlando is bent on using Jameer Nelson in the future. I am surprised about Lee being packaged in that deal though.

***Art*** · 06-26-2009, 01:58 PM

Petrie (Kings GM) has been a draft genius. He's had his share of questionable moves, but his draft choices have been absolutely stellar. Jason Williams, Peja Stojakovic, Hedo Turkoglu, Kevin Martin, Francisco Garcia, Spencer Hawes... Every player has worked out quite well for the team. That's why I am not at all upset about them passing on Rubio. Especially since I watched Memphis play some, and I really like Evans.

Adam · 06-26-2009, 07:58 PM

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Petrie (Kings GM) has been a draft genius. He's had his share of questionable moves, but his draft choices have been absolutely stellar. Jason Williams, Peja Stojakovic, Hedo Turkoglu, Kevin Martin, Francisco Garcia, Spencer Hawes... Every player has worked out quite well for the team. That's why I am not at all upset about them passing on Rubio. Especially since I watched Memphis play some, and I really like Evans.

For me at least its always especially hard to tell how an international player is going to fare in the NBA. They're either going to be monsters or they're gonna bust. Lots of people are saying Rubio could be the best international player since Drazen Petrovic. I'm not too sure what to think about Rubio. He is insanely fun to watch but he's got a long way to go defensively. I doubt he is going to be an impact player right away, but I could very well be wrong.

Turkoglu opted out of his contract with Orlando. Think we'll see him back in a Kings uniform anytime soon?

I was satisfied with the Suns, who picked Earl Clark at No. 14. He's a Big East monster who can play multiple positions and probably would have gone higher if he entered the draft last year. Unfortunately Suns GM Steve Kerr has just made the mistake of offering Stoudemire to the Warriors for Stephen Curry and some other players, which Golden State coach Don Nelson has said isn't going to happen at all. Thanks for shopping Stoudemire, Kerr. Now you're probably going to end up trading him for sure. I was glad to see Shaq vacate the Suns roster but come on, we couldn't even get the Cavs first round pick along with everything else? Weak. I'd hate to see Stat leave unless the offer is just phenomenal.

Adam · 06-26-2009, 08:01 PM

The Magic's trade for Carter was weak. Its not going to make Orlando any worse but its not going to put them over the edge like they're thinking. Carter has slowed way down and he's old. He can still put up decent numbers but he's not what the Magic need, in my opinion.

***Art*** · 06-26-2009, 08:54 PM

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The Magic's trade for Carter was weak. Its not going to make Orlando any worse but its not going to put them over the edge like they're thinking. Carter has slowed way down and he's old. He can still put up decent numbers but he's not what the Magic need, in my opinion.

Do you think he will do enough to replace Hedo? I think that is what they were after. Personally, I don't.

And no, the Kings aren't getting him back unfortunately. He will have plenty of options, and the Kings were so bad last year, he won't want to be there. Haha.

Adam · 06-26-2009, 11:49 PM

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Do you think he will do enough to replace Hedo? I think that is what they were after. Personally, I don't.

And no, the Kings aren't getting him back unfortunately. He will have plenty of options, and the Kings were so bad last year, he won't want to be there. Haha.

No way Carter will do enough to replace Hedo. Hedo is more clutch now than Carter is. Carter has choked more times than he has won clutch games. He's good, but Hedo gets the job done a lot more in crunch time, in my opinion.

I honestly wish I could see him back with the Kings (I miss the old regime with Divac, Williams, Webber, Turk, etc) but like you said I doubt it will happen. I'm sure he will make a huge payday with someone else. Orlando must have known that by signing Carter that might jeopardize the relationship with Hedo...I guess they didn't mind losing him, which is a real, real shame. Turkoglu is in his prime. Maybe he'll sign with the Suns (I could only hope)...but Robert Sarver is so insanely stingy, that will never happen, haha.

***Art*** · 06-27-2009, 01:13 AM

You miss the old regime? Do you have any idea how I feel about it?

Mr. claw · 06-27-2009, 07:56 PM

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You miss the old regime? Do you have any idea how I feel about it?

That fateful moment when Vlade knocked the ball out to Horry to save the Laker's skin in that game...and I think it turned the whole series in their favor....that moment will haunt me forever. What a sick accident.

taylordyoung · 06-27-2009, 10:29 PM

Will the thunder EVER be good?

Napoleon17 · 06-27-2009, 11:30 PM

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That fateful moment when Vlade knocked the ball out to Horry to save the Laker's skin in that game...and I think it turned the whole series in their favor....that moment will haunt me forever. What a sick accident.

I'm far from a Kings fan but I was rooting for them just because they were playing the Lakers... that was a sad day for America.

***Art*** · 06-28-2009, 01:09 AM

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That fateful moment when Vlade knocked the ball out to Horry to save the Laker's skin in that game...and I think it turned the whole series in their favor....that moment will haunt me forever. What a sick accident.

This is true... But the Kings won game 6. I refuse to acknowledge that disgusting display of horrid refereeing as an actual Kings loss... And they missed so many free throws in game 7, they looked like an entirely different team. And they still nearly won! It just sucks. They were obviously the better team that year.

Mr. claw · 06-28-2009, 12:59 PM

Mmhmm. That was the year they went 61-21 right? They were really good one year.

Iceman-bass14 · 06-28-2009, 10:36 PM

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Will the thunder EVER be good?

Yes.They have a solid young core if they can keep them together and mature them.I'd say the Thunder have a nice upside honestly.

penguinofwar · 06-28-2009, 10:52 PM

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The Magic's trade for Carter was weak. Its not going to make Orlando any worse but its not going to put them over the edge like they're thinking. Carter has slowed way down and he's old. He can still put up decent numbers but he's not what the Magic need, in my opinion.

I completely agree with this. I think that the Magic need someone to run there offense, and while I'm not saying that the Magic were looking for Vince to do that I think they still need a solid gaurd who can put up great passing numbers, like a Steve Nash or Chris Paul style (I know thats a lot to ask for, but I found the Magics biggest problem in the finals was there passing inabilities and late turnovers). I do think that acquiring a guy like Vince will help them open up more scoring opportunities for guys like Dwight, though. But I don't think what they gave up for him was worth it. I think that Courtney Lee has a bright future ahead of him.

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Will the thunder EVER be good?

Dude, what iceman said. just give them some time, its rare that teams who move in any sport have really sucessful seasons right after their moves.

bonovox · 06-28-2009, 11:42 PM

the magic are going to have the best 5 in the league. Jameer Nelson,Vinsanity,Turkoglu,Rashard,Dwight Howard. but their bench is thin: JJ Redick, Gortat?. they should bring grant hill back so he can win his ring.