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Old 09-04-2009, 01:31 PM   #76
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Which renders this 'just because we don't want to split the vote' voting practice absolutely idiotic.
No it makes it even more critical. I live in Mass. One of the most liberal states in America. I am free to vote my conscience because in the last 49 years only once did my state vote other than democrat- and that just barely.

But in states where the vote is very close- a third party copnservative candidate can throw the vote to the democrat.

This is a very personal issue but IMO getting hjalf a loaf is better than none. I don't like it wish there was a neater answer but to me-- putting a moderate in is better than a liberal. I am not against everything liberals stand for. but more and more the divide between conservative and liberal is growing more and more distinct and sharp. This past election made that clear.

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Old 09-04-2009, 01:33 PM   #77
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Maybe I should've stated that differently. What I meant to ask is it seems you don't believe that sin is sin is sin; you believe there is a heirarchy of sins, some being worse than others?

I have to say God's kingdom in your view sure sounds like a scary place. It sort of reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Bart could make anything happen by thinking about it and everyone was terrified of him and tried to pretend to be happy all the time

Why is it that God's mercy, grace, forgiveness and compassion that he shows us today will no longer apply in this kingdom?
I am starting a new thread to deal with the issue of th epolitics of the millenial kingdom- so this thread can stray on the original topic. If anyone is interested.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:55 PM   #78
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:34 AM   #79
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though in todays America the chance of getting a believer elected are near 0
This is absolutely incorrect. Every president we have ever had, at the very least, paid lip service to Christianity and I would bet that a lot of them, if not most, were truly sincere in their belief.

The chances of getting a non-believer, or getting someone without Judeo-Christian beliefs, is a lot closer to zero. In my state of Kentucky, every candidate that runs for any office is expected to be a Christian, and if you're not, then you may as well kiss your campaign funds goodbye.

Whether or not someone is a Christian has nothing to do with their ability to govern. Perhaps if Christian politicians followed I Corinthians 14:40 ('Let all things be done decently and in good order.') more closely, there would be a correlation.
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This is absolutely incorrect. Every president we have ever had, at the very least, paid lip service to Christianity and I would bet that a lot of them, if not most, were truly sincere in their belief.

The chances of getting a non-believer, or getting someone without Judeo-Christian beliefs, is a lot closer to zero. In my state of Kentucky, every candidate that runs for any office is expected to be a Christian, and if you're not, then you may as well kiss your campaign funds goodbye.

Whether or not someone is a Christian has nothing to do with their ability to govern. Perhaps if Christian politicians followed I Corinthians 14:40 ('Let all things be done decently and in good order.') more closely, there would be a correlation.
Well I am not talking of being a Chrtistian in name only but actually being open about it! Reagan was and was supported overwhelmingly.

Bush was but too caught up in politics too be ver focused on issues of the faith.

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think sometimes there is a perception that if someone uses CAPS or finishes a sentence with an exclamation point, that it converts that sentence from a basic statement into a forceful, yelled, statement.
Also compared to most of you I ma an old fogie!!! I think that it is just a generational difference in how we use written communication.
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Well I am not talking of being a Chrtistian in name only but actually being open about it! Reagan was and was supported overwhelmingly.
Reagan believed that God sent his son to give everlasting life, and that the Christian Bible was his accurate story more than Bush believed that?

What is your source of this knowledge?

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Bush was but too caught up in politics too be ver focused on issues of the faith.
What an odd thing for a politicin to do... politics.
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Also compared to most of you I ma an old fogie!!! I think that it is just a generational difference in how we use written communication.
Mature adults cannot type?

I dare say several of our posters who are older have exceptional English and typing skill.

FTR, my grandfather, who only made it through 3rd grade is an excellent typist with superb grammar and spelling.
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Also compared to most of you I ma an old fogie!!! I think that it is just a generational difference in how we use written communication.
I think the point was that if you were quite a bit more sparing with your exclamation marks and capitals, your message would probably be much easier to process as discussion and not combativeness.

In the last large post, you used 12 exclamation points, while in the entire rest of the thread, members other than you have only used 3 total. There's a bit of a reason for that; it's a minor thing, but it helps a lot to just end sentences in periods, instead of exclamations.
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Reagan believed that God sent his son to give everlasting life, and that the Christian Bible was his accurate story more than Bush believed that?

What is your source of this knowledge?

What an odd thing for a politicin to do... politics.
I didn't say Reagan beleived it more than Bush, just was freer in sharing his faith openly than Bush. I do not think there is a souce anywhere that would compare the depth of faith between Reagan and Bush as you ask for. But as to his faith, here is a short site:

Printer Friendly: Biographer Mary Beth Brown Describes Reagan’s Faith

Baptist leaders remember Reagan's optimism founded on faith in God

And we are not talking about Apolitician doing his job (politics) just that he allowed politics to hide if you will his faith.

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I think the point was that if you were quite a bit more sparing with your exclamation marks and capitals, your message would probably be much easier to process as discussion and not combativeness.

In the last large post, you used 12 exclamation points, while in the entire rest of the thread, members other than you have only used 3 total. There's a bit of a reason for that; it's a minor thing, but it helps a lot to just end sentences in periods, instead of exclamations.
Then I will try to practice less caps and less exclamation points. I apologize it gave the impression of combativeness. it was not my intnet, just the way I learned tro emphasize points.

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Mature adults cannot type?

I dare say several of our posters who are older have exceptional English and typing skill.

FTR, my grandfather, who only made it through 3rd grade is an excellent typist with superb grammar and spelling.
Many can- me when I type on my small keyboard- with my paws is quite comical.

I spend most of my time with blue collar types and teach guys who left school, so the higher vocabulary, though I do know it is something I generally do not use. Most of you because you are in college use far more specific grammar.
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