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Old 03-05-2009, 07:12 PM   #31
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Fun fact; Greg Ginn from Black Flag always used solid state amps.
Well that explains their guitar tone....


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Old 03-05-2009, 07:19 PM   #32
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I'd say the B52 takes it as far as harder music is concerned. The valveking is decent but needs to be boosted to get into decent metal territory IMO. I assume your into deathcore,metalcore,and/or screamo since "hardcore" really doesnt exist purely as a genre anymore and had guitar tones that were closer to punk music. Think of bands like bad brains, minor threat, and blackflag for original straight up hardcore which originally started out as harcore punk and then the name was shortened.
Hardcore still exists, there just isn't a lot of either west or east coast hardcore being produced these days.

(I still like a lot of hardcore)
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Blah, what do I know about labels? Avenged Sevenfold..that kind of thing.
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Old 03-05-2009, 09:00 PM   #34
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To tell you the truth, I'd probably recommend the same thing for that as any other thing with core at the end. With true hardcore, I'd lean more for a 5150, as that was the amp of choice for most of the hardcore bands I grew up on, but then again, I was playing a convincing version of some hillsongs tunes on mine this evening, and ultimately, they are WAY too much amp for your student. I believe the specs say my 5150 II head weighs something like 64 lbs without a cab. The combo I have heard weights from 94lb to 100 someodd pounds pending who you ask.

In all honesty, I think that B-52 is your best choice new in the price range. I stand by the old Peaveys that led up to the 5150 as solid choices, but they are used, and frankly, not so cool looking to a 13 year old mind.

The Valveking is an anomalous peavey amp. It is cool, but not right for this application IMO. It is designed to cover the whole range of gain and tone. It sacrifices some extreme gain for versatility. A bad thing? Not really, but makes it maybe a lesser choice for what you described. Also, valvekings are not quite as indestructible as the old peaveys from what I hear.
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:12 PM   #35
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A7X....yeah thats metalcore. Your going to want to go with the B52 out of those two choices for that. The pre 5150 peaveys like BillS mentioned would work well also, like the peavey butcher and so forth.. Your probably going to want to boost with any of these choices. A7X were running bogners but of course there uber expensive lol, they say there running marshall now but I find a change from bogner to marshall to be highly suspect. The JCM800 synyster is runnin is probably highly modified.
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but I find a change from bogner to marshall to be highly suspect.
True be that. I want a Bogner Fish so bad I can taste it... it tastes of metal and glass if you were wondering with a side of grape-ade... but as you said, they are expen$ive, so much that I used a dollar sign for the S, and I NEVER do script kiddie notation in any text. The B52 is awesome though. I was hoping I could have some clips this week to post, and as we are on spring break next week there will be no practice so no recording... but trust me, it will do what he wants.
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