[Kentl]

okay i am going to get this out so everyone knows

i cant express my self so that is why this is going on i think

i am not mad at any of you I just get mad wean i can explain my self to some one

anyways i do want to say one thing this gril is geting to me more now she wanted to join my band and i said yes just becase

1 i did not want to say no and hurt her feelings
2 it is a christin band so who am i to refuse her praising god
3 she sing like there is no tomorrow


but will this help i mean one guy said i should make freinds with her
and to be honest i want to know should i go along with trying to be freinds or what ?
i am changing the subject becase i dont want to discuss bi poler any more

[Here-am-I]

Originally Posted by JerryLove

Actually, we've mostly said that the described problem doesn't sound like bi-polar.

I'm not understanding what the difference is between our first statements: "To everyone telling him it doesn't sound like he's bi-polar:" and "Actually, we've mostly said that the described problem doesn't sound like bi-polar." I think we both basically said the same thing. But anyway....

I wasn't trying to be aggressive or anything, I just thought it was a little off that he was asking for help with his bi-polar/girl issues but instead people were saying "it doesn't sound like these issues you're having are related to bi-polar disease"... for the most part.

Originally Posted by JerryLove

Because he asked?

I don't see where he asked for people to try to diagnose his problems. From what I understand, he asked for people to help him with these girl problems he's having while at the same time trying to deal with his bi-polar.

Originally Posted by JerryLove

Since he said he had, no one has doubted the diagnosis; we've doubted the tie between that disorder and the issue being described. Do you feel this doubt is unreasonable?

Maybe it is related, maybe it isn't. Who am I to say? I would guess that his bi-polar does in some way influence his relationship with this girl and his feelings for her. But I don't have enough information about the situation or medical training to provide an educated response as to whether or not the two problems are related. Kentl seems to think they are, isn't that what's important?

But yeah, I wasn't looking to argue with someone I just wanted to say that I don't think CGR is the right place to give out medical advice (direct or indirect), unless it's saying "go talk to a professional" - which you have said. I do think it's ok, however, to try to help him understand how he can better his relationship with this girl, AND how he can better control his emotions when he is around her.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

My point was this:

A lot of people walk this earth claiming to be bi-polar because someone unqualified told them they were.

I always want to make sure, because claiming a Mental Illness you do not have is handicapping to your life. Thus, I wanted to make sure it was something that actually had been diagnosed, because if there is a real medical condition involved, then the fact that he needs to see a doctor is the case. I grew up in a home with a bi-polar mom, so I have watched it for a while. However, I am not, nor have ever claimed to be a physician.

I asked if he had been properly diagnosed. And no, what he is describing does not sound like classic bi-polar to me. However, I am not his doctor, and I assume his doctor who has a degree and has observed him knows more. I asked twice because the first time I got no answer.

I might add that I work with youth right now in the inner city. Some of them will inform me of medical conditions and I ask, and their schoolteacher said it was something, or their aunt. Including ebola. Now kids going to youth group who are alive 3 weeks later with no treatment did not have ebola.

My basic point was that if this is related to Bi-polar disorder than a doctors visit would be in order. If it is not at all related, BPD is a bit of a red herring.

[Here-am-I]

Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

My point was this:

A lot of people walk this earth claiming to be bi-polar because someone unqualified told them they were.

I always want to make sure, because claiming a Mental Illness you do not have is handicapping to your life. Thus, I wanted to make sure it was something that actually had been diagnosed, because if there is a real medical condition involved, then the fact that he needs to see a doctor is the case. I grew up in a home with a bi-polar mom, so I have watched it for a while. However, I am not, nor have ever claimed to be a physician.

I asked if he had been properly diagnosed. And no, what he is describing does not sound like classic bi-polar to me. However, I am not his doctor, and I assume his doctor who has a degree and has observed him knows more. I asked twice because the first time I got no answer.

I might add that I work with youth right now in the inner city. Some of them will inform me of medical conditions and I ask, and their schoolteacher said it was something, or their aunt. Including ebola. Now kids going to youth group who are alive 3 weeks later with no treatment did not have ebola.

My basic point was that if this is related to Bi-polar disorder than a doctors visit would be in order. If it is not at all related, BPD is a bit of a red herring.

That is totally understandable.

I don't want to come across sounding like I don't approve of people asking if he had seen a professional, because that's something I would've asked myself - for the same reasons you asked. If not because someone unqualified may have misinformed him, then because it may have been said out of sarcasm. Lots of people jokingly say things like "Oh, it's like I'm bi-polar because I'm all over the place". It's always good to clarify things, and make sure people really know what they're talking about.

I just thought that people saying stuff like "that doesn't sound like bi-polar" was a little out-of-place... better left for those who are actually qualified to say so.

Well, I've said all that I wanted to say. I guess I'll stop posting in here now to ensure this little tangent doesn't continue.... haha.

[MtlMom]

Originally Posted by Kentl

okay i am going to get this out so everyone knows

i cant express my self so that is why this is going on i think

i am not mad at any of you I just get mad wean i can explain my self to some one

anyways i do want to say one thing this gril is geting to me more now she wanted to join my band and i said yes just becase

1 i did not want to say no and hurt her feelings
2 it is a christin band so who am i to refuse her praising god
3 she sing like there is no tomorrow


but will this help i mean one guy said i should make freinds with her
and to be honest i want to know should i go along with trying to be freinds or what ?
i am changing the subject becase i dont want to discuss bi poler any more

Okay - let's all drop the discussion about Bi-polar Disorder and pick up from this post.

[bravesfan007]

Originally Posted by Kentl

anyways i do want to say one thing this gril is geting to me more now she wanted to join my band and i said yes just becase

1 i did not want to say no and hurt her feelings
2 it is a christin band so who am i to refuse her praising god
3 she sing like there is no tomorrow


but will this help i mean one guy said i should make freinds with her
and to be honest i want to know should i go along with trying to be freinds or what ?
i am changing the subject becase i dont want to discuss bi poler any more

I think there lies part of your problem. Obviously you are affected (for better or worse) by the presence of this girl and now you've agreed to spend even more time with her. This isn't going to help you get over her. In fact, it's only going to enhance the feelings you have for her.

You can be cordial to someone without being their friend. I just think that you are setting yourself up for more problems by inviting her into your band. You're now going to spend more time with her when obviously, that is something that is causing you harm. Again, I'm not saying not to be friendly. I'm friendly to a lot of people, but I would never be there friend.